oppostate
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Imagine
by Doug Mason inmary gives birth to a girl..
jesus shares the lead in his ministry with a woman..
half of jesus leading disciples and half of his apostles are women..
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oppostate
- ImagineImagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as oneImagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
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Ray's Books. And Copyrights!
by DwainBowman inthe copyright owner has posted a message on the internet, and can be found below!.
ray franz.
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oppostate
Okay, so Sis. Dykstra was sick and now she's better, she fought a legal battle and now that's over (I hope) for her. She's got offers from people to help her with costs.
I agree with breakfast of champions. It would be quite easy to start an account with Amazon.com and sell the books in their Kindle format which isn't so portable like a pdf and it can't be shared as freely. I can see people getting fed up that it isn't available anywhere and turning to bootleg copies.
So, why wait to put it on Amazon.com in digital format? So, why wait for a printed copy? So, with all the techy know-how available on this forum aren't there plenty of us who would offer to lend a hand to see them be made available again, I know there's a lot of us here who would want to help out, I'm sure of it.
When I bought my copies back in 2008, I was still an elder but awake, so having heard about the book I bought CoC and then ISoCF. They were a good price back then and after reading them I decided to get in touch with Ray.
I told him how much I appreciated he'd written it and I offered to help translate it, he took me up on it, and was delighted to do so. I also purchased the digital copies from Commentary Press (which came with a pin code). I also offered to translate some of the articles that were posted on Commentary Press back then. (You can probably read them on the WayBack machine at archive.org I would think).
But anyway, I want to believe that the folks who sold paper copies on Amazon.com weren't just out to make a quick buck. But I know too that there's a lot of people without scruples who'd would take advantage. And before that happens once more, let's make a commitment to support Sis. Dykstra in getting legal copies out there. Legal copies in print will take away the wind from bootleggers sails and make it easier to go after them legally.
If they aren't going to be legally available then they would be better out there on the internet than out of print. Ray's books have helped so many people to be awake to the WT/JW organization's ways. They deserve to be in print and legally available. For the sake of Ray and Cynthia's memory it would be a privilege to help bring them back into print and help Sis. Dykstra.
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Update on everything going on in JW Land - Insider Information
by thedepressedsoul ini'd like to start off by saying that i will be very vague in everything i say.
i am fairly "high up" in jw land and have to be somewhat careful how i word and say stuff.
sorry in advance if any specific details are left out.
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thedepressedsoul said:
I'll update with more information soon.What information? What update? What? This OP is so sad, but laughable, I really don't know if I should do a facepalm or laugh myself silly. "Vague" information indeed! Yeah!
NOTHING that anyone who reads the forum wouldn't know already. There's no real information in the OP that's new, what figures you said sound quite made up (150 bapt) elsewhere and you're in the U.S? What???
For someone who claims to be "high up" you certainly don't seem to know much of anything.
KEEP READING THE FORUM MAYBE YOU"LL ACTUALLY LEARN A THING OR TWO.
ROTFLOLPMP
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WT claims to have completed "Peak Construction Phase of New World Headquarters"
by wifibandit inhttps://web.archive.org/web/20151210004420/http://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/jw-headquarters-peak-construction/.
http://imgur.com/a/dbsqt.
are they just moving the goal posts now that 2016 is almost upon us?.
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They need crenelation with merlons on top of that WT like the toothy logo they're so fond of using only on official buildings (as per copyrights and all).
Someone should do a mod for a Minecraft version of the Warwick compound where creepers and zombies could spawn themselves all throughout the place each night.
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No One on GB Anointed
by TakeOffTheCrown inwhat if no one on the governing body is truly anointed?
what if they just proclaim they are anointed and partake in order to gain authority, but they are not anointed?
what will happen to them when they die?
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The classic aphorism "fake it till you make it" may well apply.
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John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2
by Wonderment incontinued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.
the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.
the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.
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The whole deal with the Trinity concerns the essence of being.
The orthodox belief in the Trinity teaches that Jesus is God, and JW's will agree that Jesus is a divine being. The orthodox Church Fathers' opinions differed and at the two extremes we may think of Athanasius and Arius and their ideas.
My understanding is that the essence of the Divine Being is like, (if I may use the illustration), an amount of water, the water of life--and that the son is poured as a cup of that water, it is separate, only a cup of that essence, but having the same source. The Holy Spirit is like a stream of this water. It flows from the source; it has power. But it is of the same essence even when it is sent forth to accomplish something.
If the Father is the essence and source of this water, people may have seen Jesus, and felt the power of the Holy Spirit, but we aren't close enough to God, we are separated from the essence of life, the source. Jesus was the cup that was poured out on behalf of humanity to bring them closer to the Essence of life.
Anyway, that's my understanding, and all the quibbles and quarrels between trinitarians and unitarians has become a lot of noise to me.
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WT claims to have completed "Peak Construction Phase of New World Headquarters"
by wifibandit inhttps://web.archive.org/web/20151210004420/http://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/jw-headquarters-peak-construction/.
http://imgur.com/a/dbsqt.
are they just moving the goal posts now that 2016 is almost upon us?.
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What an ugly set of buildings.
Soviet era style indeed.
And the guard tower in the middle
looks a lot like an airport's traffic
control tower, are they putting in
a small private airport for the GB?
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"High" education
by Esmeralda001 indid any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.
if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?
are you happy with the end result?
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I studied with JW's while at college getting my BA. I also did get "High" as a lot of college students do while in college. It was tough academic work but I loved the challenges.
During summer breaks I worked with brothers who had businesses washing windows, shampooing carpets, cleaning/polishing supermarket floors, painting, etc. I asked myself if I could drop out of college and own my own business of that sort that so many brothers were into.
My parents (non-JW) dissuaded me from that notion, and urged me to finish my schooling and then decide. Best advice I could have gotten about making this life's decision.
After graduation I tried cleaning jobs, sales jobs, and then teaching. I stuck with teaching and got my Masters in Ed. Then my Doctorate's Degree. I'm still teaching and shudder at what my life would have been today if I had dropped out of college to clean windows and supermarket floors for little pay and no health insurance or retirement plan.
The only ones I know who did well with their own cleaning businesses are those who hired other witnesses to work for them. They've taken early retirement, and have moved away from New England to North Carolina and Florida where they own their own homes to "auxiliary pioneer" where the need is greater, thanks to the sacrifice of those they'd hired for years at minimum wages without benefits.
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I found the WTBTS 990-T's Income Tax Returns for 2010-2013, and it shows their book value of all their assets
by LevelThePlayingField inthere are two sources online to get these pdfs.
https://www.citizenaudit.org/111857820/ lists 2010-2013 ( i would prefer this link because it's the most up to date).
http://www.guidestar.org/viewpdf.aspx?pdfsource=0&ein=11-1857820 lists 2010-2012. book value of all assets at end of year: (can be found on the 990-t for on top left on 1st page).
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Thanks for the site and info. Great resource.
The PA Corp is "Watch Tower" with a space. The NY one is "Watchtower".http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2015_08_T/11-1753577_990T_201408.pdf
Old CO Rokus just about had a tantrum because the local BOE didn't know the difference.
But not just NY there must be dozens of WT corps in the States. Like in FL and in CO, etc.
https://www.citizenaudit.org/?q=WATCHTOWER+BIBLE+AND+TRACT+SOCIETY
Then there's the...
RELIGIOUS ORDER OF JEHOVAH (sic) WITNESSES
and the...
CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
And there's all kinds of charities, insurances, funds, foundations and trusts at: