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robert ciranko has been a "helper" of the governing body in the writing department.. don adams (born 1925, presumably 91 years old now) has been president of the wtbts since 2000. .
however, in recent official posts (april 2016), robert ciranko is identified as "president of the watch tower".
does anybody know what happened and if this is an official change?.
That's an excellent catch! Good question, I just did some searching around and you're right, Ciranko is being touted as the President of the WT-Penn. corporation.
I'd say official corporation records with the State of Penn. would give us some insight as to whether there was a definite appointment and a changing of the guard sort of speak.
Good eye, EdenOne!
hi new to this forum but not so new to ttatt.
i was just wondering how nice it would be to know each other in real life.
i have got few friends in jw who are fully awake but still hanging because of family.
I thought this thread would be about coming up with some sort of secret handshakes to let each other know we were awakened to the WT's cultish crap doctrines.
My one connection with another awakened JW was through the anointedjw.org website which we now don't even think of going to due to their connection to the Urantia Book--Funny business there!
I've reached out to some at the KH who I thought would be open to some anti-witnessing but it backfires and I've been getting burnt everytime.
..bloody meetings" --dale carnegie.. i say this as my wife frequently returns from meetings in a bad mood and after any convention a worse than bad mood.. i detect the same in others postings.
whatever the wt is spewing out it is not honey but vinegar.
im going to bed with a book..
Zeb, you're right on. Same thing here.
At the meeting all smiles and niceties, when finally home the smile turns into a frown, like someone smelling rotten fart and if I mention something negative about the 0rganization, forget about it, the fault finding begins. It turns personal and I'm apostate sounding and will reap what I sow.
To the indoctrinated JW brain meetings must be like an addictive drug, first comes the high then the low--The WT's got a manic-depressive (bipolar) hold on the brain.
when you read the following statements from the wt.
organization... do they satisfy you?
or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.
Reading over WT literature of years past can really get under my skin.
The obvious, in your face, claims of divine predilection and appointing while at the same time denouncing all other religious institutions with over-the-top, incendiary name calling, makes them sound like braggarts and narcissistic, egotistical, spoiled brats.
They presume to speak in God's name. They convince people to put full trust in what they preach. They make complete turn-arounds in doctrine whenever it suits their purposes. And they never admit to having been in the wrong. Sad little cloistered braggarts, much to be pitied were it not for their guilt in leading thousands upon thosands of lives to their physical detriment and their mental and emotional enslavement.
A pox on them, filthy lucre-loving, reprehensible cultish task-masters of the JW hierarchy.
the nicest and kindest jw's seem to be the ones who are the least connected and active in the congregation.. i've been trying to fade and been missing quite a few meetings.. of course my wife still loyal as ever if not more so since i've awoken to ttatt.. every mid-week and sunday meeting i miss she gives me the silent treatment.. she's become more and more friendly with a regular pioneer younger than she is and wife of an elder, this to the letting go of regular contact with best friends in the 0rganization, whom she was closest to but were and aren't as active and regular at meetings and field service.. it's a crying shame, i'm closer and kinder to her old friends, keeping in touch through facebook posts now and then, encouraging them through the hardships, rejoicing with them during happy moments, graduations, welcoming a new child to the world, marriages, new jobs and what-not.. she has become a serious shunner, staying away from a lot of folks we were close to because they're not good association.. she's drunk the whole cup of kool-aid and anything i say that's remotely negative towards the 0rganization is met with stern retorts and accusations i'm apostate sounding.. and yet, she's still the kind hearted, loving person she used to be.
it's like she has a wt hat she dons and it changes her mind, her outlook, her behavior.
when dealing with neighbors, with people outside the kh, she's as nice as could be and i know this kind-heartedness is genuine--but it's been hi-jacked by this f'ing cult.
The nicest and kindest JW's seem to be the ones who are the least connected and active in the congregation.
I've been trying to fade and been missing quite a few meetings.
Of course my wife's still loyal as ever if not more so since I've awoken to TTATT.
Every mid-week and Sunday meeting that I miss she gives me the a bit of a silent treatment for.
She's become more and more friendly with a regular pioneer, younger than she is and wife of an elder, this to the letting go of regular contact with former best friends in the 0rganization, whom she was closest to but were and aren't as active and regular at meetings and field service.
It's a crying shame, I'm closer and kinder to her old friends, keeping in touch through facebook posts now and then, encouraging them through the hardships, rejoicing with them during happy moments, graduations, welcoming a new child to the world, marriages, new jobs and what-not.
She has become a serious shunner, staying away from a lot of folks we were close to because they're not good association.
She's drunk the whole cup of kool-aid and anything I say that's remotely negative towards the 0rganization is met with stern retorts and accusations I'm apostate sounding.
And yet, she's still the kind hearted, loving person she used to be. It's like she has a WT hat she dons and it changes her mind, her outlook, her behavior. When dealing with neighbors, with people outside the KH, she's as nice as could be and I know this kind-heartedness is genuine--But it's been hi-jacked by this F'ing cult.
They're controlling her nice qualities and using them as a tool to attract those outside and to castigate those not towing the line inside the cult by having her hold back her natural love and kindness from the less active ones.
But these not so active, not so indoctrinated folks are the ones who are the most human and real. These are the ones who aren't good enough for the 0rganization! What a perversion of a religion!
Man I hate this F'ing cult!
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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.
it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.
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Good eye! And yes there's some panty-ness showing through in my estimation.
And the WT used a look alike dressed in a similar dress with similar hair style standing in a field of similar coloration just to match the stock footage they purchased for their video.
Some WT video shop tech probably thought he made out finding the footage. It must have been worth the three seconds in time and filming budget, I guess.
You know, I doubt the GB even knows that they used stock footage on this climaxing video of the Convention.
it looks to me as though they are saying don't play at a higher level because your then in competition?
so if i'm correct what if any bible scriptures can be used to back up this anti competitive idea and are there other scriptures showing the opposite?.
Then again they have the gall to call for volunteers who have musical training or play professionally to come to the Branch, practice the lame songs and make recordings, oh, and travel back and forth to NY at your own expense. Good grief!
the title is a bit of click bait.
but here's the alternative title: what stupid beliefs/ideas did you have while an active jw.. i think the majority of jws that don't have obvious mental health issues are not stupid, just un/under-educated.
for example, i now accept evolution as a thing, not a controversy or conjecture.
One stupid belief I had was that I thought the WT hierarchy actually cared and wanted the best for those under their lead. I believed the published PR that the GB is only a group of experienced congregation shepherds who are guided by the Scriptures.
They're guided by their love of unquestioning power and their greed for filthy-lucre.
this was news to me, it's from a year and a half ago,.
from joe emerson at http://www.christianwitnesses.com.
bethelites told they weren’t doing enough, hadn’t reached their potential so about half of them walked out of the talk; efforts made to get names of those who walked out but didn’t get them all.
It doesn't cost millions a year to build crude Kingdumb Halls in Africa. It does help the WTBTS to inflate/exaggerate expenses/projects, and then pocket the excess $$$!
Exactly. Compare the photos on this thread and you can appreciate how the 0rganization is investing in realestate, making buildings which are built and maintained by volunteer labor, and can later be sold for a good profit. Then there are the deplorable looking KH's they're building for the use of the R&F while collecting donations from more affluent countries with the excuse of building KH's.