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  WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

  on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

  "clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

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  It just seems to me that an attempt to pacify the R&F on something like this would be better served in the Kool-Aid Edition. I dunno. I can't make heads or tails of anything they do anymore. Their motivation, their reasoning, none of it is adding up. The only thing that would make a modicum of sense at this point is if there is indeed an "apostate" faction that's somehow getting to the Writing Committee and attempting subterfuge via articles like this one while those who are supposedly in control, i.e. the Governing Body, would be too clueless to notice...

  It makes me think of something my sharp-as-a-bowling-ball D.O. said back in, I think, 2006... "Very soon things are going to happen in The Organization that are going to make you wonder, What's going on? Have the apostates taken over?"
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  WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

  on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

  "clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

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  And another thing (steps on soapbox one final time)... since the whole thrust of the date's significance is supposedly tied to 1914's "prophetic" repercussions (and let's face it, even the WT acknowledges in their lit. that that IS in fact the ENTIRE reason the "correctness" of the date is even an issue in the first place)... WHY in Yahweh's glorious name do they even bring this up in a public venue with nary a mention of 1914... hell, not even a WHIFF of the hint of a thought that the date has any kind of prophetic significance?

  Somebody help me out here. What are they hoping to accomplish with this article??? I'm seriously stumped...
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  WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

  on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

  "clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

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  agonus

  And if this issue is so crucial, why not make it the cover article rather than... "SEX!"
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  WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

  on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

  "clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

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  agonus

  "There is no way that this article is intended for the public."

  Normally I'd agree with you, the "607 vs. 587" non-debate means nothing to anyone who is not a Jehovah's Witness... but then why feature it in the Public Edition of the WT? What's the reasoning behind that?

  Any thoughts?
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  Nervous break down because of being a JW?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  i know it's sometimes hard to pinpoint causes of things when there could be several potential causes.

  i am wondering if anyone here knows anyone (or maybe you yourself) who has had a nervous breakdown directly or indirectly because of being associated with the jehovah's witnesses.

  i am not on the verge yet, i don't feel like, but then again maybe these things just snap in a person.

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  agonus

  I've been broken down, beyond broken down, and then beyond the beyond. It's not entirely bad, I've almost reached a sort of Zen-like state.
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  "The organization has never disappointed us..."

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the simplified english edition of the july 15th, 2011 watchtower, in an article that warns jws about apostate influences, the following quote is given as a reason to stick close to the watchtower organization:.

  "the organization has never disappointed us and always gives us an abundance of pure waters of truth from god's word.".

  a scan of the page can be found here: http://www.jwfacts.com/images/watchtower-2011-jul-15-p12-apostates.jpg.

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  Um, didn't either Russell or Rutherford themselves coin the phrase "The Great Disappointment" to refer to the letdown caused by unfulfilled expectations in 1914? Or was that William Miller with the Second Coming in 1844?
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  We deleted 10 Elders

  by Quarterback in

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  my wife and i just decided to count all the elders that were deleted in our kh in recent years.

  we couldn't believe that we counted .

  upto 10. there are more deleted elders in our kh, than there are elders.

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  Unfortunately it's going to have to come down to people being just so blasted miserable that they have no choice but to step down. I foresee that happening more and more.
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  Judah Schroeder?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  judah schroeder?

  today i uploaded a new article to my blog providing the latest information about judah schroeder, former bethelite and son of governing body member albert schroeder (deceased).

  judah schroeder grew up at bethel.

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  agonus

  It's ironic they would defend an organization that would deny them the kind of education and lifestyle that enables them to defend said organization in the first place.

  But then, being the kid of a Gub would pretty much render you impervious to irony, I suppose.
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  Mass Apostasy- Sign of the Lord’s presence

  by mankkeli in

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  2. friends

  this quote is from the watchtower 1980 8/1.

  "are you profoundly shocked and unduly disturbed when you see or hear of a christian you know yielding to doubts, cooling off and perhaps even becoming rebellious to the point of deserting the christian congregation and trying to draw others away with him?

  if so, you may be comforted in knowing that, sad as such occurrences may be, the scriptures forewarn us that they will happen.. among the various causes of apostasy, one of the foremost is unquestionably a lackoffaith through doubt.

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  If it's apostasy from Tha Organiza-Shun and a drawing nearer to Christ, the effect is usually exactly the OPPOSITE of loss of joy. Plenty of folks have found joy in Christ when De Org was grinding them into spiritual sausage and sucking all the joy out of their existence.
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  WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  finally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .

  as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.

  much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.

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  1984 was written as both a cautionary tale and a satire.

  WT apparently missed both the warning AND the joke.

  They think it's a freaking handbook!