Posts by nugget

you've got the child catcher from Chitty chitty Bang Bang, the baddy from who framed Roger Rabbit, Audrey 2 from little shop of horrors, Bad guy from die hard, Hannibal Leckter.

The governing body are missing.

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Report back from the International Cult Studies Association event in London

by nugget in

the icsa event in london was a day well spent although a little emotionally draining.

the event was well represented by ex jws who formed the biggest group there with representatives from both the uk and europe.

other cults discussed during the day were, exclusive bretheren, christian scientists, therapy cults, mystic cults, born again christian cults and some extremely scary mind control groups.

nugget

I have the magazine here so will do what I can.

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I'm not a camper. I don't see the point in pretending you are homeless

by wha happened? in

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friends

i used to camp alot as a kid.

i was in cub scouts and boy scouts.

dad and i went to lot's of camping trips.

My son went camping with the cubs in the rain. When he came home I asked him if he had enjoyed it he said no it was ok but now he had the badge he didn't see the need to go again. I hate to break it to him that camping is what the scouts are all about.

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Report back from the International Cult Studies Association event in London

by nugget in

the icsa event in london was a day well spent although a little emotionally draining.

the event was well represented by ex jws who formed the biggest group there with representatives from both the uk and europe.

other cults discussed during the day were, exclusive bretheren, christian scientists, therapy cults, mystic cults, born again christian cults and some extremely scary mind control groups.

nugget

I think this issue has the table which shows what 2nd generation people have found helpful in moving on. worth looking at.

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Today's text 22 April 2011 Stay thick!!

by punkofnice in

i saw todays text(tm) and it was obvious bait and switch!.

it was banging on about listening to the holy spirit (a good thing if you believe in it), and then they used these sickifying words:.

''we do not need extensive formal education in order to comprehend deep spiritual truths that have been published.''.

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It basically says learn just enough to read but not question the rubbish wot we wrote.

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Report back from the International Cult Studies Association event in London

by nugget in

the icsa event in london was a day well spent although a little emotionally draining.

the event was well represented by ex jws who formed the biggest group there with representatives from both the uk and europe.

other cults discussed during the day were, exclusive bretheren, christian scientists, therapy cults, mystic cults, born again christian cults and some extremely scary mind control groups.

nugget

Randy thank you so much for the links brilliant information.

One of the key elements was the need to take the time to heal yourself. Sometimes this needs to be done before you can help others. In one experience a mother had left the therapy cult but not really recovered mentally from the experience. It was only when she reached out to Steve Hassan because her daughter had joined an occult cult that she realised that she was not ok herself and sought help.

Even though the experience has been a difficult one acknowledge that you have learnt from it and take away the opportunity to use this in helping others. Having left the cult are you more appreciative of others, more friendly, more grateful etc.

It was highlighted that sometimes we are cautious about discussing our cult experience with people who have not had the same background. However a good approach is to ask questions like have you ever been fooled by someone? for second generation born ins you could ask did you ever believe something as a child that seems ridiculous now? It helps to put the experience into terms that most people can relate to. Terri from the board here made an excellent suggestion that other people such as homosexuals have also experienced coming out and life changing adjustments and talking to people such as them can help us appreciate our own experience and how to move on from it. It is true that many people have made radical changes in their lifes and have come through them. Listening and sharing our experiences is invaluable.

ICSA has produced some good articles especially on how second and third generation born ins can start to rebuild their lives. This is an area that is starting to receive greater focus as this group is increasing.

As an aside there is some lobbying to get religious counsellors registered by the counselling governing body. They would be associate members but still would have to abide by the principles laid down by the BACP that professionals have to follow. How this would affect the elder arrangement I do not know since they offer advice to congregation members on everything from marital to health issues but it unlikely that the governing body will see the need to abide by this or will state that they have no counselling in the congregations. This is a wait and see.

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Report back from the International Cult Studies Association event in London

by nugget in

the icsa event in london was a day well spent although a little emotionally draining.

the event was well represented by ex jws who formed the biggest group there with representatives from both the uk and europe.

other cults discussed during the day were, exclusive bretheren, christian scientists, therapy cults, mystic cults, born again christian cults and some extremely scary mind control groups.

nugget

Yes I did can't leave told me that putting it next to his iPhone wipes the magnetic strip. Who knew.

The best bit of the day for me was the warmth and friendliness amongst the ex jw community at the event. We certainly are a force to be reckoned with.