so being sick serves Satan's purpose. Being ill is the last genuine excuse for missing meetings and field service so this statement makes being sick something else to be guilty about. This applies pressure to those that feign illness to quit it and fall back into line. It also means that people who are genuinely ill will be looked at critically by others for allowing themselves to be under Satan's influence. Cults shoot their wounded how long before this too is a reason for Elders to take you aside and tell you chronic illness is no excuse for missing meetings.
Posts by nugget
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41Crazy Weird Quotes in 1/15 WT Article - WT Society Opinions-Nothing More
by flipper ini won't follow a theme on this thread .
i'm just going to supply weird quotes from the current 1/15 wt article " keep drawing close to jehovah " and then you can draw your own takes and conclusions on these insane " opinions " from the wt society.. paragraph 3 : " marketers cleverly convince people that they must have the latest products.
one young man so passionately desired a particular tablet computer that he secretly sold one of his kidneys to buy it.
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Weird "new world" artwork from the 2013 calendar
by cedars inmy mother-in-law has a strange obsession with calendars, and orders the society's calendar each year.
this year's calendar is especially weird.
it features images depicting future events - in particular, the society's vision of the new world order.. i've taken the opportunity to scan some of the images for you all to check out.. please note - there are captions for each of the images, but i don't have the english language version of the calendar so i'd rather just quote the scripture used so as not to reveal which country i'm in.. .
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Truly appalling. So they no longer feel the need to give pictures of the preaching work across the globe, I suppose a stall outside supermarket isn't that attractive.
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what has the watchtower society done to benefit mankind?
by bigmac inwhat i mean is---has the wts/jw's/ibsa-- or whatever organisation or legality they hide behind---ever done to really benefit some sector of humanity on a practical basis?---.
it must be me--but i really cannot see some poor person--starving in a third world famine--regarding the chance of a free home bible study as high on their list of priorities..
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can think of nothing but then I didn't try hard, they aren't worth the mental effort.
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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me
by Newly Enlightened inthe following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
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nugget
Sometimes you wonder why you ever bothered. Your daughter has my sympathy. Where were the elders when she was laid up, wouldn't it have been better for the elders to ask people to bring their studies to your daughter's house so she could get time in whilst convalescing. They could also have arranged for her to go on RVs so she wouldn't have to risk further damage. They could also have taken her off for two months. The fact that they did nothing to support her shows they failed her.
Their insensitive handling of the issue shows their lack of support rather than your daughter's lack of committment. To give such a talk was totally reprehensible and shows that there is no love. However it is true Cults shoot their wounded.
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The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story
by fulltimestudent ini'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.
the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.
the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.
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nugget
There can be no justification for the brutal rape and murder of another person. I appreciate that they lived in terrible poverty and that they have families of their own but what is telling is that the children in the family are all out at work and the son left education due to being beaten by a teacher and the parents solution was to find him work not fight for him to get an education.
People are commodities even within a family and that is sad. It is also true that women are not always valued in India and are disposed of with violence if they are seen as an inconvenience. However none of that gives and excuse for what happened. Any society that allows men to brutalise someone else and behave with such depravity may have questions to answer but these men knew right from wrong and they knew what they were doing was wrong. The Independent has given a glimpse of the family background of this man but I do not hink it is justifying what he did.
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reinstatement tries
by Honeybucket ini am looking for the reinstatement guidelines for someone who has been actively trying to get reinstated for 2 years and have put in a reinstatement letter 3x in those two years but was denied everytime.
are the elders just making an example of them, have they permenately been kicked out, or maybe these people dont want to come back and this story is part of their fade.. .
has anyone ever heard of people not getting reinstated.
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nugget
Since the decision to disfellowship is arbitary then the decision to reinstate can be equally so. Elders use reinstatement as part of a power trip making the person jump through hoops so that they will be totally cowed by the time they are allowed back in.
The decision to delay could depend on many factors such as: the nature of the original offence, whether an elder or a member of an elders family were involved, whether the elders liked the person originally, how widely the original offense was known about, a megalomanic elder who just wants to be a hard arse.
If it involved a marriage break up and a husband or ex husband is still an elder then they can make things difficult.
My advice to them is don't bother with them educate yourself and build a life outside they are not worth the effort.
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Who would you most like to meet from this board and why?
by usualusername inwho would you most like to meet from this board and why?.
i would love to by danmera dinner.
she rocks!.
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I have met so many and they have all been awesome. I would love to meet Flipper, Blondie and Leolia but also leavingwt, Terry, SD7 and so many more. I have always been delighted by the connections we have and the impact just talking to one another can have. I have enjoyed watching how things turned out for others such as coffeehousegirl and timothyt and would love to have a laugh and share experiences with them.
I also would love to meet Outlaw too he manages to find the humour in just about anything and of course Simon.
There are many more and I look forward to ever increasing my circle of friends.
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Newbie alert
by Braehead innice to meet you all.
long time lurker, but now i can get my twopenneth in.. a brief history.. born into the religion, but it never really took hold - thankful for an easily bored mind and strong, worldly grandparents.. never very interested - dragged from meeting to field service.
in the teenage years i wanted university and my parents want a pioneer.
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welcome to the board.
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Im a non JW and i'm interested in a JW
by littlebigtown123 ini'm interested in this girl and shes a jw.
i went to the meetings and i was bored out of my mind.
i can see how the religion is very appealing to people.
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Good luck on your date I hope it goes well. Remember that love should be a two way thing you love someone and they love you back. Within the JW religion the religion always comes first and personal feelings and desires must be repressed when they differ from what is permitted. She is obviously struggling and is going against her religion everytime she is with you. However she is distracted because she knows she shouldn't be there and is worried about being found out. She is still very much controlled by her religion and as a result she is unable to love you as much as you love her. You will always be second.
You are young with much to offer and you have a right to be happy.
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New video: Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower's secret child abuse letter
by cedars inwe have decided to let the world know what happened when our websites were shut down earlier this month by means of this new video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_9efi84qnc.
huge thanks to nugget for lending us her gorgeous voice, and also to cantleave for his cameo role as the voice of the big bad watchtower!
cedars.
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nugget
Witnesses are a closed group and they are trained to go to the elders first whatever the issue and to follow the advice of these men as to what action should be taken. Regardless of the internal politics of the witnesses any group has a responsibility to safeguard the children within it and it is standard policy for schools, clubs, and groups to report suspected abuse to the proper authorities. This is seen as part of the community responsibility. As religious leaders it is their duty to have safeguarding practices in place. Jws have none they safeguard their own reputation above the protection of the vulnerable.