There is no logic and they will not care that you have presented a clear argument. As far as they are concerned you do not believe that the governing body is gods representative on earth automatic Df'ing.
Posts by nugget
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90Can this logic be refuted?
by notsurewheretogo ini was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.
i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!
i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.
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Newly wed UBM and soon to meet JW in-laws
by UBM101 ini have been lurking here for a couple of years.
my hubby (inactive & some doubts) and i were just married and i'll be going to his place to meet his family (pretty much dubs).
they seem to be friendly and excited to meet me, and i kind of had agreed to attend the kingdumb hall meeting once (in my life time, yep, that's the agreement) and also meeting an elder who brain-washed my hubby during his teen.
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nugget
The problem you have is if your husband has doubts but still believes he may be sucked back in. JWs are very effective at applying guilt and pressure to get ex believers back in line and unless someone is mentally free they are still influenced by all this. The other thing is when JWs are processing difficult situations they can shut out the unbelieving spouse since JWs are conditioned that this is a personal struggle and not to be influenced by worldly influences they will see you as part of the problem not part of the solution. Be aware of this and if your husband starts to withdraw from you you might get an early heads up that they are affecting him more.
I would avoid confrontation but I would suggest being polite but firm. If they try to pressure you to study or look more into their faith then thank them for their offer but say that you are happy with your faith and have no wish to study with them. If this should change you know where they are and would come to them.
Be curious and question every assumption. Talk to your husband about what was said get him to think about things that he has accepted. Not as a challenge but as someone who would like to know the answer. Getting him to look into things and explain will help him understand why he has doubts and clarify his own concerns.
Good luck
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Who from JWN would you most like to have dinner with?
by laverite inif you could pick anyone from jwn to meet in real life to meet and have dinner with, who would that be?
let's exclude all those who you are already friends with, who you know and love from jwn in real life.
so or me, that excludes my friend ann and also curious butterfly.
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nugget
I'm working my way through the list Cantleave is further along but then he travels more.
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Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?
by Simon inthis may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.
there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.
'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.
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nugget
is there any way the mail symbol could indicate if you have a new message, thus alieviating all the "you have a message" threads. And could the mail show more recent first.
Just my two pennath
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Anyone Live in or around Los Angeles?
by cantleave ini have a free day sunday and would love to meet up with a mentally diseased apostate.
i am staying in the lax marriott..
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nugget
OK I am leaving for Heathrow. I look forward to meeting some new aposta buddies.......
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Do JWs (any religious) have a right to secrets?
by usualusername inmost businesses have secrets which they guard carefully.. .
governments too.. .
charities likewise.. .
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nugget
If they want privacy then they also have to accept legal obligations to be open and honest in other areas. They cannot set themselves above other organisations that have a legal obligation to protect children or lie in a court of law about how many members are paedophiles. They are untrustworthy and therefore have yet to earn the right to have secrets.
Quite frankly most of what they believe is a secret to their own members since it is almost impossible to stay awake at meetings and process the lessons.
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New Job
by LouBelle inhey everyone.
so i left the old company behind, the one that wasn't paying me.
they still owe me a little bit of money but have them on record and signed documentation that i'll receive payment by the close of this month.
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nugget
Well done on your change to a new job. I hope you start being valued as much as you deserve and start building a brighter future for yourself.
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what scriptural support is there for commanding children to engage in the door to door work
by soft+gentle ini have just been going over the candace conti case and it struck me that one of the things i'd like to see come out of this case is that jehovahs witnesses stop involving children in the door to door work.
so what would you say to them to make them re-think this issue..
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nugget
In the old testament children were involved in all aspects of worship therefore witnesses would argue that since field service is part of worship it is acceptable to allow children to participate.
However in the Candace Conti case it was noteworthy that she went on the service alone trying to be the best witness she could be. This left her vulnerable and unprotected. No parent should leave their child without knowing who they are with.
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A Cry for Help
by Thoughtless ini have been lurking here for months now, and i just decided to post here and actually interact with this community.
i have a very specific/unordinary life, so i will not divulge too much information to protect my privacy.
i am a baptized publisher who is under the age of 25 who attends college, and i do have responsiblities within the congregation.
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nugget
You are young and have time to plan and make a smooth transition. Work on building a life outside the witnesses now. Get your education and do not allow yourself to be discouraged from this. Start making friends outside the organisation who like you for who you are not what you believe. Start moving towards financial independence since if you leave you will be cut off from any support so planning and preparation now will help to reduce pain later. Remember your adoptive family are slaves to a cult but time is on your side since they are waiting for a war that will not come.
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Apostate: From 279 Facebook friends to 81 overnight... thanks MOM!
by sosoconfused inthe drama continues, i log on to facebook this morning and notice that i have about 20 some odd personal messages from people calling me an apostate to they will return to me when i return to jehovah.. all of this based upon my brother informing others that i have "apostate thoughts".
my mother also encourage long-time famil friends to "unfriend" me because i have taken my stand on the side of satan... wow.
don't you just love this international brotherhood.
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nugget
So after your brother said he wasnt going to talk about your business he went on to discuss you with others. Sounds very trustworthy to me. Your mother sounds a bit of a hysteric too. Desperate to bring you back in line but can't see what a bully she is being.