Posts by nugget

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Involved with a JW woman

by jonza in

okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

we're in love and seriously want to be together.

All relationships take work and effort. A relationship with a believing JW is difficult since the society is very good at controlling it's members and sidelining the unbelieving spouse. If your girlfriend still believes but feels unworthy she will have many issues and feelings of guilt. The DF'ing process is designed to be humiliating and embarrassing in order to bully someone into submission. It can break a relationship because the non JW is seen as the cause of all the problems.

Don't underestimate the problems nor the disruption. As you have children of your own I would take things slowly and make sure that they can cope with the relationship and it's implications. Birthdays, Christmas, Mother;s Day and many other celebrations and activities are denied to JW children. They are also denied to JW adults who also have issues with attending church weddings, funerals and Christenings.

It is clear that you care for this woman and she is lucky to have you but don't rush into anything. It may even be worth having counselling together to explore the main areas of friction as JWs find challenge to their beliefs very difficult to deal with and it can lead to anger. If an expert is there to help it may help her to think more rather than shut down. ICSA does offer exit counselling sometimes free of charge for members of high control groups.

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I dropped TTATT to some door knockers today

by TheStumbler in

two jws came to my door today and i dropped a few truths bombs on them.

i thought i'd share my account of how the conversation went.. .

i was in the yard doing some weeding when two gentlemen walked through the gate.

nugget

You gave it your best shot. It is very hard to penetrate the JW mindset but who knows. Your reasoning was sound and there is no wriggle room except in the vacuum of their minds.

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Come On And PLAY!!!

by snowbird in

this here is very educational.. http://www.funtrivia.com/tournament/jwd-trivia-quiz-75350.html.

come on, y'all.. sylvia.

nugget

Bible quiz today, it brings back memories. Top of the board but very beatable.

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Do The Writing Committee Believe?

by jw07 in

does anyone personally know jws serving on the writing committee?.

what is their outlook regarding the end; are they still truly convinced?.

are they expressing doubts or seem demotivated?.

nugget

Writing committee, amend articles to reflect changes, see the original documents that they mine quotes from and pick things that fit doctrine. Have access to libraries of old light.

They know what they are doing.

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College Class about JWs .... book suggestions?

by Shepherd Book in

i have the opportunity to take an independent study class through my university this summer.

my advisor, a history professor, suggested i choose jehovah's witnesses as a topic.. we are now trying to formulate a syllabus.

she suggests i write two papers: one on the history of jws, and another on their doctinal approach.. so now my question is...what books/articles/videos do i list on my syllabus as sources i intend to read and use for the papers?.

nugget

ICSA may also have articles about JWs they ran a 2 day workshop last summer and may be able to offer research on them.

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Need an ex-elder or someone who knows

by Roberta804 in

it has been a long time since i have been here, but i need you guys now.

my mother-in-law is on her death been; most likely will not make it though the night.

my husband and i have sat with her for the past two days, she is totally unconcious.

nugget

Depends on how important JW relatives are since they do tend to move the goalposts to suit.

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Come On And PLAY!!!

by snowbird in

this here is very educational.. http://www.funtrivia.com/tournament/jwd-trivia-quiz-75350.html.

come on, y'all.. sylvia.

nugget

top of the board for thefirst time ever I'll enjoy my moment for the few seconds it lasts.

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Didn't you just hate sharing a KH??

by quellycatface in

jw
friends

i like to get stuff done in the morning and do my own thing later.. i really hated the afternoon meeting.

you had no time to do sod all.

not even eat a decent lunch with a glass of wine!!.

nugget

In the past there was always one congregation that called the shots and picked the best meeting times. I was in 2 congregations that were stuck with the afternoon meetings on Sunday for decades because the other congregation preferred morning meetings and wouldn't swap. When the rotation came it was really nice to get morning meetings on a Sunday on either a bi annual basis or for 2 years.

At the time you work with it because you are encouraged to be faithful and obedient and even though part of you thinks something is awkward or unreasonable you still do it. I found that when I had children I found some of the selfishness trying especially as it was my children who were affected.

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Will firing the DOs be the first step to a new Watchtower?

by Juan Viejo2 in

against my better judgement, i've decided to share the following as a response to guy pierce passing and the announcement of the elimination of district overseers later this year.. late in january (2014) i got an email from one of my contacts (a fader) who served at bethel for several years, but is no longer at wt hq.

he still has a lot of close contacts within the service department and in other departments at patterson and knows people in all of the ny offices.

i kept this email set aside on a flash drive and haven't shared it with anyone - figuring i'd publish an article about it later this year when i had more time to do it right.

nugget

If the 144,000 no longer includes women whether it is a literal number or not this will be a bitter pill for many faithful sisters who have believed themselved to have the heavenly hope, they will be crushed and humiliated. This may have a huge impact at a local level. In the past they have always said that if someone claims to be annointed when they are not then there is no other hope for them, if they are not annointed then they die since they have rejected the earthy hope for something that is not theirs. It would not just be a change of status but condemnation to death.

I wonder if they will be arrogant enough to do this. Being an annointed sister has not always been a quest for prominence since for sisters this has always been something they felt was between them and God. They had no special status in the congregation and no chance to be part of the GB.

How they rationalise this or persuade the flock will be interesting.

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What do you love about being a JW?

by FL_Panthers in

jw
friends

as the title says, share what you love about the truth!.

we know that the gb or anything else in the truth is all true and nothing is false!.

love u guys xxx.

nugget

The rules are not there to protect the flock they are there to protect the organisation. The rules do not prevent premarital sex, molestation, drunkeness, strife, adultery, stealing, cruelty, violence, incest, misery and broken homes. The rules cause people to hide behaviour and conform to a code of silence.

The rules cause people to put trust in men who are ill equipped to deal with complex issues leading to long term damage and mental anguish.

You are not protected anymore than sheep in a pen outside a slaughter house are protected, you are just controlled and will be sacrificed to the hubris of a cult if the need arises.