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  Britain Branch to Cease Printing Sooner Than Expected

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source: .

  the demise of printing literature in the u.k. is being brought forward by one year - to march 2018. graphic design and printing support will go too.

  large numbers of "disposable" bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them.

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  If printing is going why do they need to build such a big facility outside London? Seems like an unnecessary expense.
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  The Latest Trend in NW England: Homeschooling Your Children

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally.

  but im hearing more and more people i knew from my jw days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead.

  in my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school.

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  I work at 2 schools so know how much effort goes into educating children. It is not something that should be half arsed.

  Damage can be done to a child's long term prospects if they are not taught properly. It may also cause them harm if they try to reenter mainstream later as they may have gaps in their knowledge which will impact on how they absorb new information as there may be an assumption that they know something they don't. Some lessons build sequentially so missed steps can mean they struggle to take on more complex ideas.

  Unless the parents are motivated and committed and well educated these children will struggle to get any education at all.
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  Just curious - is apostasy grounds for divorce?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.

  i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.

  we currently are separated - i have left him.

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  you can get a divorce and do as you please. It is your ex who is happy to follow their rules and your ex who may feel he cannot remarry.

  Part of the benefits of leaving is that your private life is now your own and is entirely your own business. I can understand that if you have affection for your ex you may wish to assist him on moving his life forward but don't be in a hurry to make such a decision. It is unreasonable and demeaning to keep your Ex and the elders posted about your sex life and would not be expected of any normal divorce arrangement.

  Part of starting afresh is thinking afresh.
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  The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what a horror.

  instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.

  anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?

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  Saw it happen many times. I didn't marry in haste and was lucky. Of course if cantleave posts that he married an idiot I will take it all back.
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  Update: Got my Judicial Committee cancelled

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  original thread here.

  update: so, after the meeting i had with elders a few weeks ago as outlined in my original thread, they met as a body and once again called to tell me that after considering my case they still thought a judicial committee should be held against me and asked to be there "thursday at 7:30".

  all of this, i remind you, because of posting coc on facebook.

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  I am glad you were successful. However be careful what personal information you post as this is a public forum and I am sure that this thread would be seen as a breach.
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  I need to know more on why its a problem for me dating a JW girl.

  by seekinghelpp in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  ok not to throw no shade or no disrespect to the jw religion.

  which i truly do respect because my girlfriend is part of but i just don't understand, i have researched so much about it.

  so much about how its discouraged for her to be with me just cause of different religion.

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  Dating outside the organisation is a huge no no. In the Bible the early Christians were told not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers. In the JW world this is anyone who does not follow their faith including other christian denominations. Because this is an instruction in the Bible it is seen as a command from God so failure to follow this command is showing disloyalty to God. This person is not demonstrating the right attitude and could be marked by the congregation as someone who is not a good associate.

  If they suspect you have been alone together they may decide to hold a judicial committee for fornication or brazen conduct which can result in disfellowshipping. If she repents she will be asked to cease the relationship as demonstration that she has the right attitude.

  In a local congregation a witness girl started a relationship with a non believer. This person subsequently started a study and they got married. All the elders that attended the wedding were removed as elders. The feeling was even though he studied the relationship was a sign of disobedience.

  In my old congregation a sister who got engaged to a non JW had a marking talk given to the whole congregation saying what a dreadful thing this was and she was to be considered a bad association.

  Your relationship is under tremendous pressure JWs are not people swayed by true love everything is subordinate to loyalty to the organisation. I cannot see this ending well as the congregation will try to humiliate the girl you love to get her to conform and it is possible she will start to resent you as the perceived cause ofher pain.

  
  
  
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  Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  besides being raised in the religion , why do people become jws?

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  It offers them validation that they are special. It gives them an opportunity to have authority and status when otherwise there would be nothing extraordinary about them.

  Egocentric and narcissistic people seem to be drawn to the religion don't know why.
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  Second in the Medal Table - Well Done TeamGB

  by konceptual99 in

  1. social
  2. physical

  can't believe it - gb is currently second in the medal table, with more golds and silvers combined than even china.

  given the size of the nation it's an incredible achievement and we have won in some sports where other countries typically dominate.

  i can't imagine we will stay in second but i am happy to enjoy the moment.. well done to the whole of team gb!.

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  Loving it at least China will be happy at the moment.
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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  When it comes to friends in the organisation that now choose to shun it does not upset me.It irritates me that as adults they allow themselves to behave in this way and that they bully ex members. As adults they make their own choices I accept that their friendship was fragile and conditional.

  Shunning by family hurts, it is meant to hurt as it is a coercive technique meant to bully people into doing something they do not wish to do. When you are told by family they love you it means something and you have higher expectations of family members. When they behave just like everyone else sometimes worse than others you realise you were never loved unconditionally that the relationship was never what you imagined it was. That they are controlled by people they never met it can throw you off balance. It is hard to accept that especially since everything they do is based on a lie.
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  Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.

  he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.

  here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.

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  Funny that the talk was about reaching out and the substance of the talk was about discouraging brothers from showing ambition. In the past brothers were able to ask why they hadn't been chosen so they knew what to work on now it isa sign of presumption.

  Nothing like this religion for treating people like morons.