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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  When it comes to friends in the organisation that now choose to shun it does not upset me.It irritates me that as adults they allow themselves to behave in this way and that they bully ex members. As adults they make their own choices I accept that their friendship was fragile and conditional.

  Shunning by family hurts, it is meant to hurt as it is a coercive technique meant to bully people into doing something they do not wish to do. When you are told by family they love you it means something and you have higher expectations of family members. When they behave just like everyone else sometimes worse than others you realise you were never loved unconditionally that the relationship was never what you imagined it was. That they are controlled by people they never met it can throw you off balance. It is hard to accept that especially since everything they do is based on a lie.
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  Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters

  by Simon Templar in

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  for the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.

  he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.

  here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.

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  Funny that the talk was about reaching out and the substance of the talk was about discouraging brothers from showing ambition. In the past brothers were able to ask why they hadn't been chosen so they knew what to work on now it isa sign of presumption.

  Nothing like this religion for treating people like morons.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses Boasted They have No Clergy Laity Class ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well that`s what was impressed on me to differentiate between the true religion and false religion , when i was converted in 1960 , do they still claim that ?

  believing that they still do , i will say this.. what about ,:the governing body who definitely are set apart from the rank and file for their attitude towards the r&f , but also from the attitude of the r&f towards the governing body members.many do seem to idolise gb members by their actions , and the gb members dont seem to discourage that.. and not only for their attitude , how about their life-style , being housed in bethel with all the mod -cons of modern civilization as opposed to a r&f member living in a third world country .does the wt society do anything to make their lifestyle improve ?

  { did jesus have a place to rest his head ?

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  The society is sneaky what they should say is they do not have paid clergy. They most certainly have a structure and a hierarchy with publishers at the bottom with no influence and an expectation that they will provide financial support.

  Ministerial servants, Elders, COs and the governing body provide the rule enforcement and doctrine. Just as popes,cardinals and bishops do in the catholic church and arch bishops, bishops and vicars do in the protestant church.
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  Would you be a GB member if you were asked ?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  off course you need to think back to when you were a jw to answer this question honestly and properly.but hypothetically if you had the spirituality and knowledge and was approached to be appointed as a gb member would you have taken on the position?and if you did what changes would you recommend ?.

  j.

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  I'm a woman it would never happen
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  Yorkshire Ripper turns to Islam

  by darkspilver in

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  from the daily star sunday 4 september 2016. yorkshire ripper turns to islam: muslim inmates to protect sutcliffe behind bars.

  the yorkshire ripper is set to become a muslim after hardline islamists offered to protect him in prison.. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/543061/yorkshire-ripper-islam-muslim-inmates-protect-sutcliffe-behind-bars.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/92500001/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-now-baptised-jehovahs-witness.

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  Whatever religion he belongs to it will be the one that offers him the most at any given time.
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  Lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency laparotomies on Jehovah’s Witness women

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the wt has promoted bloodless surgery as a viable (and better) alternative to surgery with blood transfusions.. i have found a medical study that has been used to back up these "evidence based" claims.

  the title of the article is lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency.

  these mostly indigent patients died of peritonitis becauseof delays in payment for antibiotics.

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  So it looks as if their study was based on patient records rather than being set up as an independent study with participants recruited and screened. This mean that there was no way of ensuring parity across both groups.
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  Lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency laparotomies on Jehovah’s Witness women

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the wt has promoted bloodless surgery as a viable (and better) alternative to surgery with blood transfusions.. i have found a medical study that has been used to back up these "evidence based" claims.

  the title of the article is lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency.

  these mostly indigent patients died of peritonitis becauseof delays in payment for antibiotics.

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  So the differences between the 2 groups was more than whether they received a transfusion of not. The non transfused patients were not homeless, there is no record of prior medical conditions or general health which may also have affected the outcome.

  There is also no record whether the JW patients had all received antibiotics in a timely manner or whether those that died had done so after receiving antibiotics.

  If this was a study it would be hoped that both groups received the same medical care with the exception of the blood transfusion and that both groups were similar in other ways to ensure that the conclusions drawn were valid. It seems that the homeless women were treated differently and that failure to provide all the care they needed was what killed them.If you remove the women who did not receive antibiotics from the study then witness women did not do as well as the non witness women.
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

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  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  Such sad news it felt that she was a grandmother to us all and she brought warmth and humour to the board.

  Thinking of her family and friends who have lost someone truly special.
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  Hove KH sell off

  by Damascus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone know when this sell off of the brighton and hove kh was put on the market and where will the cong go to?.

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  I used to attend Portslade congregation when they had the hall next to the railway bridge. At the time the congregation seemed pretty active how things change.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses post 'anti-gay' 'Harness Your Habits' leaflet in North Devon

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses post 'anti-gay' 'harness your habits' leaflet in north devon.

  devon and cornwall police have said a leaflet posted through doors in north devon isn't a crime – despite it advising gay people to "control their urges".the leaflet, entitled "how to harness your habits", was distributed in north devon by jehovah's witnesses and contains an article asking "what does the bible say about homosexuality?

  "in it, the religious group states that "rejecting homosexuality" is completely different to "rejecting people of a different skin colour" and says their views are the same as people who "view smoking as harmful and even repugnant".it also compares gay people to animals, but says "unlike animals, they can choose not to act on their impulses".the journal was contacted by a reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, who felt "belittled" by the leaflet.

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  It shows how isolated they are from public opinion to think that this message is appropriate for distribution. Either they are deliberately trying to provoke the community or they are just ignorant.