Excellent post DakotaRed, keep them coming. Dont let the freaks get you down.
Terry
president bush agrees to more inspectors in iraq
(ap) washington dc saturday, march 18, 2003 8:45 pm .
president george bush has announced that the us will not attack iraq.
Excellent post DakotaRed, keep them coming. Dont let the freaks get you down.
Terry
some claim that we are only in iraq for oil.
has this really been the pattern?
what has the us given the world since wwii?
We fucked the American Indians. So what is your point? That the US is not a perfect county? I don’t believe anyone is making that statement. In the past, especially over 100 years ago, the US did make huge and terrible mistakes. Of course, the world was different then and you are judging a nation of 100 years ago with today’s standard. So once again, what’s your point?
if your point is America is evil because of its past and no matter what it does currently or in the future it will always be evil then by the same logic would the:
i posted this on another thread, but i thought a new thread might help get the ball rolling: .
i have a simple question for all those that believe this war is solely about oil: .
what exactly do you believe bush is going to do with the oil fields after the war?.
The two arguments can be boiled down to this: feel free to corect me if you think I am wrong
Simon
how many times has the left stated there is no need to have war, but saddam should be just taken out?
i've lost count how many times i have read that it all could be avoided if only saddam were taken out.
tonight, bush tried to do just that:u.s. launches cruise missiles at saddamsaddam denounces attack as 'criminal'.
Dakota is correct about a sizable percentage of the ‘anti-war’ crowd, Bush will be vilified no matter what course of action just because he is republican. I am for this war but I do realize that there are some plausible arguments to be made against it, to bad the majority on the left can not articulate them.
Please do not assume I was ok with that was happening when Clinton was in office. I was not. I thought he was very wrong.
alot of 'anti-war' people tell me this now, I never realized how unpopular Clinton was with the 'anti-war' crowd:
There are personal attacks all over this board, why single out mine? Honestly, personal attacks have been a part of this board from very early on. When it is directed against a group the Simon disagrees with they are allowed, otherwise they are not tolerated. So, save your criticism.
Terry
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Terry
i don't know if this is a "legal" post, but here it is:.
see men shredded, then say you don't back war.
by ann clwyd.
This war is not about humanitarian issues or even freeing the Iraqi people those are just positive side benefits. What this article and Saddam’s record of human rights violations do accomplish however; is a complete dismissal of the leftist argument that we should not prosecute this war because innocents will die. Innocents are dying now. I’ll break it down like this:
Argument to remove Saddam
A: Saddam is attempting to build WMD’s
B: He has used them before and we fear he will use them on us
C: We need to enforce the cease-fire he signed 12 years ago or remove him from power
Argument to keep Saddam in power
D: But innocents will die
Rebuttal
E: Read the above article innocents are dying now
Of course, this argument has no effect on people that blame all deaths on America no matter what the situation. Or who think one person killed on a marine base equals the 100k’s killed by Saddam. But really, when people think like that no arguments will ever work.
Terry
moderate
i define a moderate as someone that occasionally disagrees with their party of affiliation and will (and have) crossed party lines to vote.
in short, someone that does not always vote for one party, will criticize their party for errors and occasionally agree with the other side.
Sorry, I guess I misread your post. For the record, the Democrats have offered no economic stimulus packages in DC. You imply that they have a strong economic plan, well what is it. And why haven’t they advertised it. Details and facts not propaganda and generalizations please.
I don’t like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell either, they are not elected officials and have no bearing to the discussion.
Donald Rumsfeld I have no problem with. There is an argument that our ’allies’ are the ones that hurt our relationship, not by not siding with us, but by comparing Bush to Hitler and things like that.
Oh well, check out this link too: http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/03/103.html and come back when you have a better explanation as to why the republicans want you to pay more for health care than the democrats do....
This statement proves exactly my point.
pentagon threatens.
to kill independent.
reporters in iraq
Several news agencies (American and otherwise) have left reporters in Baghdad. I don’t think the Pentagon was saying they are planning on ‘killing’ the reporters; what they were saying is that they are not going to be able to easily discern friend from foe and might accidentally kill some reporters. To say that the Pentagon is threatening to kill reporters is a bit of yellow journalism and shows a strong bias.
Terry
the last war with iraq started the night of the last chance to comply.
when do you predict this one will start?
my guess?
If Iraq is not a better place when we get through I will apologize.
If there are massive American KIA's I will feel bad but I think this is a necessary war; so no I will not regret my support for war. Not sending them would lead to more massive deaths later. I know you don't agree with this but I do. By the way Simon, I know you Euros think all Americans love blowing crap up, but among the war-supporters I don't know of anyone that is Keen for this war. We think it is necessary and will lead to less deaths later.
100K+ deaths we have already created.
Please save the crap. we are not the county that