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  Bush to Divert Funds to Church Groups

  by pettygrudger in

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  don't care how you are slanted "politically" - this should be of great concern to all americans:bush plans to let religious groups get building aid.

  by eric lichtblau.

  ashington, jan. 22 the bush administration plans to allow religious groups for the first time to use federal housing money to help build centers where religious worship is held, as long as part of the building is also used for social services.

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  jelly

  I am a bush supporter but I am not a schrill. I dont agree with this. Let the churches build their own buildings.

  Terry
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  Rain of Fire

  by Defender in

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  watch how us forces aboard ac130 gunship night raid in afghanistan targeted fleeing unarmed "personnel".

  watch the rain of fire as little bright running objects were targeted and killed one by one.

  watch how they were finished off, if after being hit, they were still "moving".

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  About three months ago there was an interesting article in the Gaurdian. A reporter went around Afghanistan and asked people if they are glad the Americans kicked out the Taliban. Interestingly enough, to a person they all said yes. Most sane people can see that we Americans bent over backwards to ensure that accidental deaths were kept to the barest possible minimum. Moral equivilancy is a very flawed form of logic, at best.

  Terry
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  How Did You Feel Witnessing For The Last Time?

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  whenever i have conversed with one of jehovah's witnesses, i feel that they are 100% convinced that the wbts is "right".. on this forum, we have many people who were once one of jehovah's witnesses, but now totally reject it.. how did you feel witnessing to people whilst you no longer believed in it, or knew you were about to leave?.

  spanner.

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  jelly

  The progression for me was as follows

  1. Something felt wrong
  2. Stopped meetings, field service (pioneering to 0 in one day)
  3. Still thought it was the truth and everything was my fault
  4. Tried to get active again but would quickly go in active
  5. Repeat steps 3,4,5 for a few years
  6. Found internet
  7. Found some knowledge from outside sources
  8. Became completely free

  So there was nothing terrible significant about my last door, or public talk. I knew something was wrong but simply felt it was me. It wasnt until latter I realized it was them. I guess looking back in the months before my inactivity I stopped keeping very accurate records and made very few RVs, nothing on the conscious level but I just no longer had the energy for it.
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  Strangest thing you were called on the carpet for.

  by Icansaylucky in

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  i would like to hear some of the strangest or most ridiculous thing you got in trouble with the elders for.

  here is mine.. back in the early 70's i was married at the age of 18, typical witness thing to do.

  my husband who was 6 years older than i ruled me like a overly strict father.

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  jelly

  This is going back to the early 1990s and I have to give a little back ground information first. Being completely deceived I thought it was mandatory to aux-pioneer at the very least. Being completely without a marketable skill set, I felt it was necessary to get some form of education. I was working near full time to support myself, going to school and aux-pioneering. My schedule for Thurs sun was the worst see below.

  Thursday 10 pm 6 am job number 1
  Friday 10 am-2 pm School
  Friday 4 pm 7 pm job number 2
  Friday 10 pm 6 am job number 1 (again)
  Saturday 9 am 1 pm job 2
  Saturday 5 pm 7 pm afternoon service (I looked like a corpse)
  Saturday 10 pm 6 am job 1
  Sunday 12 noon meeting

  I had little 2 hour naps to sustain me from Thursday to Sunday evening. When I would go to the hall the brothers would ask me to run the mikes. I was fine with this but then they complained because I was not fast enough. Not just a small comment in passing but they made a big deal of this like it was some kind of sin, i guess my slowness was impeding Jahs organization. This actually sounds very petty but they knew my schedule and what I was trying to do, instead of being any kind of support at all they just found fault. Scabs.

  The Saturday afternoon service was the best. I was exhausted, my other pioneer friends would go out to help support me, and the whole time would ask me repeatedly why I dont quit school. I still remember, it was a non-stop barrage.

  Terry
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  Black reparations

  by LoneWolf in

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  hi, everyone.. a week or so ago someone posted on the subject of black reparations and asked what our opinion was - pro or con - and why.

  now, i'm not going to claim that i'm an expert on the subject, plus, i'm white, plus, i'm a back country red-neck (of the jeff foxworthy stripe .

  well, the truth is that country red-necks are as badly misrepresented in public opinion as most other groups in the country.

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  Athanasius,

  My family has been in America for about 270 years my ancestors owned numerous slaves. Another side of my family were some of the first white settlers in indiana and married Indian women. So I have both Indian blood and slave owner blood. So do I pay or do I get paid?

  Terry
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  Black reparations

  by LoneWolf in

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  hi, everyone.. a week or so ago someone posted on the subject of black reparations and asked what our opinion was - pro or con - and why.

  now, i'm not going to claim that i'm an expert on the subject, plus, i'm white, plus, i'm a back country red-neck (of the jeff foxworthy stripe .

  well, the truth is that country red-necks are as badly misrepresented in public opinion as most other groups in the country.

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  [PASTED FROM A PREVIOUS DEAD POST OF MINE BUT RELEVANT]
  Hmmm, interesting subject.

  MY VIEW:
  To be honest, I have no problem with black only events or cable channels. If people want to do that and there is a market for it so be it, sometimes I even watch a little BET when the music videos are on. As far as reparations however I have to say no way, when the IRS shows up at my door looking for money for a crime I didnt commit is the day I stop paying taxes. That being said, things in America are still not equal and I think that we must realistically address the issue.

  THE PROBLEM:
  The inequality currently, in my opinion, is not institutional like it was 40 years ago. If you are a black man in America with the right skills, you will go far. What does exist in the black community is a type of economic disparity that must be addressed. The problem in the black community comes from two sources. The first is the poorly funded school systems that a large number of minorities attend. Schools in California get their funding based on the property taxes of the area, basically the more expensive the houses the more money per student. So rich neighborhoods have very well financed schools where poor ones are broke. The bad school leads to children that cannot compete educationally with kids form the suburbs, who tend to be white, so they end up stuck in the same neighborhood they grew up in and send their own kids to poor under-funded schools. A type of cyclical poverty. The second source of the economic disparity, that might offend some people, is the black subculture. Asians faced many of the same issues that the black community did, now the have economic parity with whites. I think the African American community does need to look at itself and make some changes. Things like education need to be stressed more, and developing a fixation on the mythical white privilege really probably doesnt help the African American community either; it just gives some people an excuse for failure.

  THE SOLUTION:
  The solution is a two-step solution. First, fix the schools, all schools should receive equal funding based on the number on students not their fathers income. Also, alternative solutions like vouchers for private schools should be pursued. Second, and more difficult, is the African American community would benefit from stressing education, and looking up to successful black men who are not sports stars. The second solution is going to have to come from within the Black community itself.

  SOME EXTRA POINTS:
  Blacks are better off in America (by a wide margin then they are in Afica) to say a few Africans live better lives than a few African Americans, while true, doesn't prove that Africans are better off than African Americans.

  I think one of the huge problems in the Black community is they tend to have too many 'ready made' excuses for failure. Focusing on the 'slavery issue' and other things that have never influenced any living black american in any way is just another example of these.

  Things are beter than they were, if you cant see that you are dishonest, but things are still not equal, see my post above.

  Much of the inequality today is based on economic class and less on race, although both still exist.

  I have worked for large and small companies and know many people that do hiring; i have never seen or even heard of anyone not hiring someone based on color. Of course that might be because of the location I am from where race relations are good.

  Terry
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  We're all Americans....Reparations?

  by Country Girl in

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  reparations.

  this country was barely populated when slaves were brought from africa.

  are you going to hunt down every descendant of slaves, many of whom took on the names of their owners families and have thousands upon thousands of descendants?

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  jelly

  Hmmm, interesting subject.

  MY VIEW:
  To be honest, I have no problem with black only events or cable channels. If people want to do that and there is a market for it so be it, sometimes I even watch a little BET when the music videos are on. As far as reparations however I have to say no way, when the IRS shows up at my door looking for money for a crime I didnt commit is the day I stop paying taxes. That being said, things in America are still not equal and I think that we must realistically address the issue.

  THE PROBLEM:
  The inequality currently, in my opinion, is not institutional like it was 40 years ago. If you are a black man in America with the right skills, you will go far. What does exist in the black community is a type of economic disparity that must be addressed. The problem in the black community comes from two sources. The first is the poorly funded school systems that a large number of minorities attend. Schools in California get their funding based on the property taxes of the area, basically the more expensive the houses the more money per student. So rich neighborhoods have very well financed schools where poor ones are broke. The bad school leads to children that cannot compete educationally with kids form the suburbs, who tend to be white, so they end up stuck in the same neighborhood they grew up in and send their own kids to poor under-funded schools. A type of cyclical poverty. The second source of the economic disparity, that might offend some people, is the black subculture. Asians faced many of the same issues that the black community did, now the have economic parity with whites. I think the African American community does need to look at itself and make some changes. Things like education need to be stressed more, and developing a fixation on the mythical white privilege really probably doesnt help the African American community either; it just gives some people an excuse for failure.

  THE SOLUTION:
  The solution is a two-step solution. First, fix the schools, all schools should receive equal funding based on the number on students not their fathers income. Also, alternative solutions like vouchers for private schools should be pursued. Second, and more difficult, is the African American community would benefit from stressing education, and looking up to successful black men who are not sports stars. The second solution is going to have to come from within the Black community itself.
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  What is your job/career? Like it?

  by ashitaka in

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  i'm a deskside support guy working for a service company, at one of their contracts.

  i enjoy fixing things, although some of the customers could use a good knock on the skull sometimes.. i make pretty decent money for what i am doing.. for me, it's what i've wanted to do my whole life.

  i had a computer from the time i was born, and love it since then.. what do you guys do to bring home the bacon?.

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  I am finishing my education (B.S. degree) and am currently working managing my parents business. To be perfectly honest, if I knew two years ago what I know now I would not have left my other job. I started working for my parents after they made some very bad business decisions that very nearly cost them everything, things are better now however. So, to answer your question, I do what every small business manager does, everything. I do scheculing, fix the machines and computers, deal with customers, write reviews, and set pay. When I first started I spent most of my time dealing with day-to-day management issues, but things are better organized now so I can spend more time working on IT projects. I really should not complain my resume is going to look great; I have created a company database, written vb.net software that we use, traveled to Indiana to go to tech school, and am currently working on a company web page. Basically, now that the company is in the black again my job is to pad my resume.

  Terry
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  Should America Start Closing the Borders?

  by pettygrudger in

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  my hubby & i had a debate tonight, so i'm kinda taking a poll..... my hubby says we should stop immigrations and start closing up the borders - except in cases of political asylum or a family member.

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  I think immigration should be altered not eliminated. I think a county should think about its best interest in matters like these. What I would like to see is immigration being driven by what amount would best benefit the American economy. In short, the number of immigrants let in would be based on the American economy and its need for workers. I think we should develop a foreign workers program to stop the illegal movement of people from Mexico to America, and individuals that stay out of trouble for five years then can be citizens. I would also severely limit the number of immigrants from certain countries (guess which ones).

  Terry
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  Have you ever been fired from a job?

  by DanTheMan in

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  dantheman is a stupid f*cking loser who may be losing his job tomorrow due to a very f*cking stupid loser thing he did at work.. i am so disgusted with myself right now.

  my image in the mirror makes me nauseous.. have you ever been fired from a job?

  how did it affect your employment from that point forward?

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  D-Man,
  You are probably not going to be fired from your job. If you are part of a large company you might have to go to some sensitivity training, or some similarly named program. Basically a harmless but wasteful way to spend a day. Honestly, the sessions are a lot like Khmer Rouge indoctrination meetings without the tasty rice dishes. Just nod when are supposed to nod and agree to what you are supposed to agree to and you will be fine (just like the meetings). And stop slapping yourself around for looking at your coworkers boobs; looking at boobs is what men do. As a side note something you should have learned from spending time in the org. never admit to anything. Deny deny deny (three times for emphasis)

  Terry