Came across this in the stuff posted by the Royal Commission.
Just downloaded it so I can't comment yet on the financials, would like to have a few of the financial minds on the board take a look and offer any opinions on their financial situation.
came across this in the stuff posted by the royal commission.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=dcb6f401-f19b-4783-b9fb-7fe8bbf620fc&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0009.001.0004&fileextension=pdf.
just downloaded it so i can't comment yet on the financials, would like to have a few of the financial minds on the board take a look and offer any opinions on their financial situation..
Came across this in the stuff posted by the Royal Commission.
Just downloaded it so I can't comment yet on the financials, would like to have a few of the financial minds on the board take a look and offer any opinions on their financial situation.
well i was loathe to start a new thread on the australian royal commission, but i've been reading in thread after thread how jw's are trying to dismiss what's happening with "it's persecution".. if anyone says this to you, just respond "it's not persecution, it's accountability.
they are being called to explain their procedures, and nothing more.".
persecution is hostility against someones religion.this is not against the jw religion, it's against procedures that jw's champion as being 'the best in the world' when in reality, and with a little analysis are proving to be among the most harmful.
Good reply.
I would even consider wording it as "Is it really persecution...or is it accountability (or common sense)?"
the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.
we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.
in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.
Love, love, love that they are using their own little book against them!
Not that many JWs will see this stuff in its entirety, but might make a few scratch their heads if the press reports on this book in their articles!
the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.
we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.
in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.
Support for the victim - the elder says there were publications in place to help the victim. He is asked again about the accuser not having to face the abuser but he cannot provide any support for this procedure.
He really said this???? Publications are in place to help victims of child sexual abuse??
paedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.
1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.
counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.
I would say only Australia, they wouldn't have jurisdiction over other areas.
Mr Stewart said the church’s own files reveal 1006 allegations of child sex abuse made against church members since 1950 but the Jehovah’s Witnesses dealt with them using “Biblical standards” and not the police.
I wonder how he got access to the files, seems like that is the big problem in the rest of the world, WT just ducks and dodges.
check it for yourself: .
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.
not a good look!.
I posted this on another thread, but check google news for "Jehovah's Witnesses".
I see six stories at the top of my feed already, a new one from "The Guardian" just posted. Tons of JWs are gonna see this! Its about time!
I don't think even Tony's little rant earlier this month is gonna prevent JWs from seeing this.
paedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.
1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.
counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.
Wow looks like this cat Stewart was able to get the goods! 1000+ files and not a single one reported to the police! No insurance policy in place, how surprising, damn Watchtower its gonna be a long, long week.
Check your google news feed for Jehovah's Witness! Already multiple abuse stories clogging the top of the page while stupid convention stories move down below the fold.
Lol!
On a serious note, I'm surprised the GB hasn't rolled out commercial products. I can only imagine the kind of dough they could be rolling in if they put together a $999-a-year home schooling course...I better shut up before they get any ideas.
earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.
a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.
he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.
Heartless, yet nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to what they will spout in defense of their "faith".
The reality of considering that their religion is just a scam is too much for them to contemplate, in moments of fear they will say just about anything rather than face reality.
i know there are a lot of threads on here about fading and i've read a lot of them, but i have a question that i haven't found the answer to yet.. what would happen if you move to a new congregation (or at least tell your old congregation that you are moving and to have your records moved), and you don't go to any meetings?
i see lots of the fading strategies say to go to some meetings and show your face until your name is announced.
what exactly happens if you don't go to meetings in the new congregation?.
It really depends on how "busybody" the old congo is. If they find out what happened, they may call the new congo and have some hounders come to your house and track you down.
Also, the cards aren't moved until the new congo requests them from the old congo. So in your situation the cards would just stay there and eventually the secretary would wonder WTF is going on because he hasn't gotten a letter from your new congo requesting the cards and letter of introduction.