You reference the Spanish version of NWT, are you in a Spanish congo? Makes me even more angry if so as to the education angle.
Good to know Abraham had family worship. These idiots will make up anything that will further their agenda.
so i was eagerly (add sarcasm) awaiting the co visit this week.
for once because is less work being at the meeting.
i just have to sit down and listen.
You reference the Spanish version of NWT, are you in a Spanish congo? Makes me even more angry if so as to the education angle.
Good to know Abraham had family worship. These idiots will make up anything that will further their agenda.
your assignment to watch over brother xxx for the next 80 years.
some guardian angels are assigned to protect and guide a particular person, group, kingdom or country.
the assignment to watch over one person sounds boring, is it a 24 hour thing.. what happen when his assigned person get into a altercation with another person assigned by another angel, do they make bets who will win.
Good questions, never thought about it from that angle.
Angels, demons, God, Satan...it all smells like BS the more you think about it.
what do you really believe the percentage is for jw who are truly ignorant of what is going on behind closed doors of the w.t.
as opposed to those who actually know something is wrong & yet go along with it for whatever reason?
i have been asked for coffee by what i can only describe as one of the sweetest persons i have ever known & i cant even begin to conceive that she knows what is happening with the child abuse cases but then how do i know?
Way up there 97 to 99%.
"Where else will you go?"
a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".
the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.
by nature i am an iconoclast.
I think he took the stuff with him because basically it was his shit, you know, when you pack up and move you take your shit with you.
They didn't move on him right after he moved away, they had to find something to "get him" on, and they even had to change the DA doctrine just to get him on that.
Obviously the GB 1.0 brain trust was about as smart as the current clown show. They don't have any plan, they are reactive instead of proactive in all facets of how they operate. Anyone with a few brain cells that can be rubbed together can make them look like the clowns they really are, and Ray Franz did it well.
at the special assembly day (sad) imitate the desert god.. here is a word for word quote from the co during the baptism talk .
"an intellectual approach to the truth will not lead to everlasting life"....
Makes you wonder why the desert God even gave us brains. If all he wants is a bunch of robots he surely could have left out the "thinking" portion of the brain.
Also really makes you wonder what kind of quality of life will exist in the supposed "paradise" earth.
i am truly chocked and baffled by the number of volunteers they got for this project; especially in the states.
looking at one of their articles on the matter, they stated that a large portion of the printing work was delegated to other locations than ny, thus, they did not need as much space as they did in ny.
also, it was stated that operation cost in nyc were expensive.
Its a loyalty test, and of course has the side benefit of raking in a couple billion bucks.
The elites will go work and be praised back home as self sacrificing. Extra days of everlasting life to be earned there for the true believers.
let's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
You know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime
I really don't think so, they've tied themselves to it for I'm guessing at least 50 years with Overlapping Generations. Liars don't stop lying.
i noticed on the october issue of the awake magazine a much softer stance on the big bang theory.
now, i'm not sure if officially the org was ever against this theory ( i did not find much on this), but i do recall on a congregation level, there was constant mockery from jws about the idea that universe was the result of a big initial explosion.. we now see a softer position on this.
as the org now explains:.
I don't think anyone is steering the ship as to WTF they actually believe about anything that has to do with science. Not so surprising when you consider the educational level of the average WT writer.
They are getting their asses handed to them on the subject, as kids grow up and leave the b0rg based on scientific evidence. I'm sure its getting back to them at HQ that people learn about evolution, the big bang, all the rest and thus leave Jehobo. So they throw stuff out via the Awake and hope it sticks to the wall. Of course most of it is made up as they go along, like the recent stuff about "not being creationists". OK, whatever.
has anyone here gone nuclear on their spouse and, all of a sudden, came out in the open as a jw opposer?.
by this i mean, sitting them down and saying: i no longer want to be a jw anymore, do not want to go to meetings or preaching anymore!
and, what has happened in the relationship after that?.
I notice it is the guys that have gone nuclear and it seems easier than if it is the woman that does it. Correct me if wrong on this.
I wouldn't say that from reading this board for more than five years, its completely random IMHO. If you haven't laid any sort of a foundation (meaning dropping hints, asking hard questions, making it known you don't agree with everything that is spewed from the podium and in the mags) its going to really blindside them and you can expect the worst.
But if you have done this, I think at some point there is nothing wrong with putting your foot down. Not "going nuclear" in a rage, but simply saying "Im not going anymore and this is why." Maybe pick a time when you know something completely out of whack is coming, like a WT study where they promote something really offensive. Good luck whatever you decide.
a question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.
i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.
i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.
new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts
May I nominate for funniest line of 2015??? Well done, sir.