Posts by LostGeneration

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Do you think it's possible being a witness can kill a person?

by The Finger in

a close relative of mine just before he died claimed it was being a witness that was partially responsible for his death (leaving aside the blood issue).

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LostGeneration

I don't think it will physically kill you, though if you become aware of the "truth about the truth" and try to stay in that could start to have bad physical effects.

Many experience the health problems already referred to because of trying to live up to expectations (burdens) put on them by the WTS. I'm sure plenty of the depression in the Witness community is brought on by the monumental expectations of the WT. Be more regular at meetings, be in service more, clean the hall, invite your brothers and sisters over, study more, pray more, and oh by the way read the bible (interesting how that always comes toward the end of the list).

Where is the "me" time?

How are you going to keep up your house? Your yard? Spend time with your kids? Go grocery shopping? LIVE YOUR LIFE?

You can't, and after decades of trying to earn everlasting life according to WT rules and regulations, the subconscious mind begins to scream at the conscious mind "I CANT F*&^&$#$ DO THIS ANY MORE." Give me a way out! And depression or some other mental problem kicks in.

To bad JW's don't get the real message of you are working for no pay and no reward for a book publishing company and take back their lives. Such is the effect of mind control.

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God's Love book - Prologue examined

by Mad Sweeney in

eventually i would like to do a deconstruction on the entire book but for now, lets start with the prologue, which claims to be written by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

if anyone feels this is useful, please let me know.

] in your life and thus keep yourself in gods love .

LostGeneration

That book makes me ill. The only way i can tolerate that book is by substituting "sky daddy" wherever I see Jehovah or God. I love that phrase sky daddy, its the only way the book makes sense. Sure JG tolerates murder, child molesters, crime, war, etc. But you better not take your blood in whole parts, FRACTIONS ONLY!

Good work on the analysis...I couldn't do it.

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my disfellowshipped hubby wants to know if numbers for jws are increasing !

by looloo in

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i just wondered if anyone knows the answer , and if numbers are those numbers mainly in poor countries where there is no internet access ?

also are other religions like catholics and born agains also increasing ?

he remembrs being taught that the love of the greater number would fall but dubbys would increase at the end ..

LostGeneration

Yes it is supposed to be decreasing as "the end" approaches. But it has gone up to nearly 11,000 over the past three years as they had to get rid of their 1935 date for the calling to end. Once that came out in print many who actually read their bible instead of just the WT have begun to follow their conscience and partake.

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my disfellowshipped hubby wants to know if numbers for jws are increasing !

by looloo in

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friends

i just wondered if anyone knows the answer , and if numbers are those numbers mainly in poor countries where there is no internet access ?

also are other religions like catholics and born agains also increasing ?

he remembrs being taught that the love of the greater number would fall but dubbys would increase at the end ..

LostGeneration

Tell him the number of "anointed" is increasing!

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1914 Is NOT the year

by roadrunner4speed in

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qw'vw bwwn brainwashed yo believed thrt 1914 was the year satan was kick out of the heaven having freat anger.

my theory is the year was 1939. he came down with great anger and he like on the past went after the jew (that's another story which i will get into later).

for now, i ask you to look at 1939. jesus spole of of theiir being wars, earthqakes, and food shortages and pestialience.

LostGeneration

As always I'm looking for an ExJW woman 55 to 60 Looks are not important who hasn't returned to her vomit The dating sites are a joke they either say their free or and are not. One site I kept hearing from catholics. Just LMK and I''l give you my email address and send you my profile. Must be within 25 milew a Selden NY. I don't want anyone over 60 but with get together with somone younger than 55 as long as their not nuch younger than 55.

Well, the invitation is out there ladies? Any takers?

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Difference between "raised in the truth" and "converts" that are now X-JWs.

by Brocephus in

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i am noticing a difference..... "raised in's" seem to be a little more relaxed and better suited for their world after the kh.

"converts" seem to be a little disoriented.

maybe b/c they saw the truth as away out of this crazy world only to be massive dissapointed.

LostGeneration

Well I can only speak from one side of the fence, as a born in. Those that leave in their teen or shortly thereafter seem to adjust fairly quickly. If you don't figure it out and leave as a young person, it can really jack you up later. The fears and indoctrination instilled into your mind take years to unravel.

Flashbacks to JW-think persist all the time.

Something stupid like a movie trailer on TV. I'll be sitting there watching the preview and thinking that looks like a cool movie. Then I'll notice that I am waiting to find out if its an "R" rated movie! How messed up is that? Who cares? If I want to see that movie, what in the world should hold me back?

Sometimes its frustrating, annoying, just plain irritating to deal with the aftermath....converts often lament how they were tricked into the religion, born ins lament that they weren't smart enough to figure a way out of it earlier...

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A wasted life

by dgp in

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the witness that personally concerns me moved to an area where she can no longer work like she used to.

though she can find a way to do for a living, she claims now that she is tired of the work she used to do, tired of how mentally demanding it is, and so on.

i believe this is no more than rationalization, as in "no, i didn't make a mistake; i don't really like my previous job".

LostGeneration

Probably not...thousands go to their grave every year thinking they have done the right thing, serve God. Very few ever think about the broken promises of Armageddon and the new order that was supposed to be here decades ago. The ones that do escape.

They don't think of it as as losing something because of the society, they think of it as a sacrifice for Jehovah.

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A wasted life

by dgp in

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the witness that personally concerns me moved to an area where she can no longer work like she used to.

though she can find a way to do for a living, she claims now that she is tired of the work she used to do, tired of how mentally demanding it is, and so on.

i believe this is no more than rationalization, as in "no, i didn't make a mistake; i don't really like my previous job".

LostGeneration

Rationalization is not just a JW condition, but a human condition. For most of us, myself included, we tend to excuse far too many of our decisions instead of doing what is truly rational. How many if in a clear state of mind would really believe the following and continue as JW's?

Jesus began ruling "invisibly" almost 100 years ago, but nothing has changed

Jesus picked an obscure Adventist sect 90 years ago to represent him. He gives the leaders of this group incorrect information and expects people to live by this information until it is later corrected. Oftentimes, once it is corrected, it is corrected again to either new information or the old information.

God forbids you to transfuse whole blood into your system, but if you break it down into components you can transfuse 97% of the same blood. Yet, you are still abstaining from blood.

God expects you to disown your flesh and blood if they have a different opinion than them about who God is.

Two people must witness a child molestation before the accused can be removed or even reproved.

I could go on for days.....but 7 million rationalize all of this away because its more difficult personally to change rather than to accept a fairy tale.

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How do they justify not having normal human interaction with non-believers?

by dgp in

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how does the society justify not allowing its members to have normal relationships with non-jws?

if i were to argue that this smells of the way other religions, such as moslems or moonies act with respect to non-members, what do you think would be the way to rationalize it?.

thank you in advance.

LostGeneration

Define normal. That is how they get away with it. They are masters at redefining words....see "Generation"

They simply define normal as any only having friends that are also JW.

They define normal as keeping all non-JW's at arm's length.