yep, these gems and comments were used in the talk today:.
speaking of ones who "failed to show appreciation for all the rich spiritual food we get from the f&ds", the speaker said this:.
"many have even failed to keep up with everything we are lovingly provided by christ's brothers, and rather than keeping their faith strong, they have become complacent and even critical ofjehovah's provisions!
Fear tactic. Its all they have. Their doctrine is shit, their prophecies have failed miserably. Their leaders look like ass clowns spouting off about spanx, yoga pants, or whatever the hell he is trying to imply.
All they can do anymore is point at those who leave and slander them all as "unhappy". Like the Nazi - tell a lie, make it a big lie, and keep repeating it.
this week has been the week when my whole way of thinking shifted.
i still cannot believe how this can happen so fast.
over a period of seven days i went from not even imagining that i could ever not be a witness to wanting to get out of this organisation.. .
Paradisebeauty - Congrats on waking up to the deception and lies of the WTS. Others have already stated it, but right now you are in an extremely emotional and vulnerable position, so its best to do nothing. Its always best to operate from a position of strength, though that is very difficult even in the best circumstances because of the power structure of the cult.
Take a few months, absorb it all. Think about it and your situation. Then make your move.
what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?
Just forget about it.
Get out. Live your life.
Its great outside the walls of the asylum.
has anyone else seen the hbo scientology documentary 'going clear' - wow...cults are just mind-blowing you wonder how people can fall for that garbage, then you (those of us former/fading jws) look in the mirror.. i would love for someone to make a major jw documentary like this.
'going clear' is getting a lot of press.
poor tom cruise...he looks like quite the whack job in it too.
If you have a spouse who you are trying to get out, you absolutely must casually get them to sit down and watch this program with you. Carefully watch their reaction if possible for possible talking points to use in the future.
I'm surprised too OneEyedJoe that your wife didn't pull some of the similarities. The section at the end where they talk about disconnection (Scientology version of DF) should cause any JW to feel extremely uncomfortable.
this is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
I'd be very careful using the meh-morial to try to wake them up.
Remember, this is their Christmas, Easter, birthday, Halloween, New Years, and every thing else all wrapped into one. Yeah, pretty damn pathetic, but it is what it is.
Let them have their day, find other methods.
i am totally new to this.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i made it my own at the age of 5. i was a "true believer ".
Vinman,
Welcome to the board!
Your question triggered a lot of memories for me, I think I spend a solid six months simply reading and re-reading information online once the floodgates opened. I too questioned myself, wondering why I was reading the same things over and over again.
I'm no psychologist, but I really think it has to do with our brains trying to fully process the new information. We have read it, we understand it, yet we still don't accept it because of the decades of indoctrination.
I felt foolish wasting time reading it over and over, asking myself why I couldn't stop. Eventually it did stop, when my brain was ready. Best of luck on your spiritual journey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
You can watch all you want, just like the billions who have lived before you, and the billions that will come after.
Nothings gonna happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
check out the song about the trolley at the end of this month's dubcast.. http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201502.
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lol ToesUp, hopefully horny teenage JW males don't get the wrong idea.
I'd hate to see them in the back room facing a JC for trolley sex,
check out the song about the trolley at the end of this month's dubcast.. http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201502.
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