AM the Turd got off easy, whether it was on purpose by accident. If he had said "yoga pants" there would have been a lot more JW women pissed as hell.
LostGeneration
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I chuckle whenever I think of this
by Nathan Natas inabout a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.
magnum .
that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.
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Elders & Ex Elders, did knowing sins of congregation members change how you treated them?
by Wasanelder Once inwhen you found out all the sins of fellow witnesses did it effect how you treated them?
it was shocking when i found out the range of bs these people did to each other.
i don't mean sexual abuse, i mean fraud, theft, infidelity and more.
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LostGeneration
Haha don't ya hate it when your thread meets an untimely demise!
I was only for a coupla years, probably not even two. Fortunately I never had to put on the hip waders, so to speak. Only a couple of straightforward JCs for me, and neither one dealt with sex which looking back makes me sigh in relief.
What I did see was the absolute weirdness of the other elders behind closed doors. Certain one had their pet peeves about individuals. Others about certain "sins", they would view someone as immediately worthy of DFing if they had a bias against what they did.
Then the self righteousness itself, gack. It woke me up though, might still be in there if I stayed a lowly MS.
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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves
by Robo Bobo ini came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.
you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.
in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.
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LostGeneration
Copy/Paste of the whole thing if you don't want to visit Einstein's blog:
Those in governments and our apostates want those of Jehovah's Witnesses who have once been criminals to stop confessing their sins to the elders. They also want to take away the freedom of victims and anyone who hears about a case, to decide whether they will report the offender. Victims and their families could end up paying the price along with the offender.
If you have ever been molested, you are not alone. However, if your molester hasnot repented and has re-offended, then they are actually an uncommon breed among child molesters. Only 11-17% of child molesters in the world ever re-offend after ceasing their activity. But the following issue affects many times more people than just those unrepentant offenders. Our opposers are willing to destroy the lives of thousands just to get at the few. But they don't want you thinking about the numbers. No, they want to stop your thinking by getting you to hone your thoughts in on the few, blinding you with a "forest for the trees" scenario.
Our opposers are on a witch hunt to get a hold of our list of sex offenders. This list includes not just rapists and child molesters who have confessed and left their sins behind, but also a great deal more who simply had consensual sex with teenagers that were a year below the legal age limit or who performed some youthful indiscretion. Then there's the fact that being able to acquire one list opens the door up to the governments having authority to acquire any other list of non-sexual criminals or even any other private records both among religions and private citizens without restriction. And not just Jehovah's Witnesses would be affected, but other religions as well, including Catholics, Baptists, Muslims and Buddhists. All under the pretense of getting the few child molesters who have not gotten themselves under control. Instead of seeking to work with Jehovah's Witnesses to ferret out those individuals, they put themselves in opposition to Jehovah's Witnesses over petty religious differences. The hardened attitude of "all criminals must pay" is unchristian and unsympathetic to those seeking help and repentance.
They don't want former criminals coming clean so that they could get help from the elders. They want to force these people into the shadows and to re-offend because they didn't get the help they needed. They also want to increase the likelihood of re-offense through incarceration so that they can have something to hold against Jehovah's Witnesses. Why would they not confess their sins? Because if the authorities get a hold of that list of sex offenders, it will be impossible for sex offenders to confess their sins to the elders without getting arrested. Brothers who have already confessed and left their sins are at risk if that list gets released. Even those who once repented and have become inactive or gone apostate are at risk. Even people who have never been Jehovah's Witnesses will be at risk, and all of their families will be affected.
In full disclosure, I myself was a victim of child sex abuse by someone I know. My abuser has never re-offended, has never offended with anyone else, and has never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses. They have a family and their grown children love them and, though knowing about the person's past, have stated that the person never did anything to them. But if those files get out, that person will be at risk for prosecution, and if that person found out it was because of that list that they were arrested, then they will never even consider joining the organization. Thus, their eternal salvation, and their freedom, is at risk.
Since the statute of limitations does not apply to child molestation in our area, that person will be prosecuted and arrested and could potentially do life in prison, not to mention lose their job, their pension and all hopes of ever finding meaningful employment, all because our selfish opposers have a vendetta against Jehovah's Witnesses in general. I'm the victim and I do not want that for my former abuser. Besides this, my former abuser is also a linchpin to their family's survival. The distress this would cause an entire non-Witness family is the punishment that our opposers seek because they only want to create reasons for people to leave or never to come to Jehovah's organization. Besides this, I myself could be jailed because I most certainly would refuse to testify against my repentant abuser.
So this issue does not just concern Jehovah's Witnesses, but concerns even people in the world. Since only 11% of treated child molesters and 17% of untreated child molesters ever re-offend, that means 83-89% of them, those who have repented and never re-offended, who have molested children that are or became one of Jehovah's Witnesses, or who themselves have been Jehovah's Witnesses at any time and confessed their sins, are at risk. Are we supposed to punish someone who has repented and is not a threat to anyone? Should the authorities have such power to override the sanctity of religious confession? Would this not violate the separation of church and state so essential to the policies and legal statutes of so many countries today, such as the United States? -
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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves
by Robo Bobo ini came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.
you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.
in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.
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LostGeneration
Definitely an off-the-rocker JW, I read the blog post and the source article is here:
http://www.smart.gov/SOMAPI/sec1/ch5_recidivism.html
The most important part is simply this:
Due to the frequency with which sex crimes are not reported to police, the disparity between the number of sex offenses reported and those solved by arrest, and the disproportionate attrition of certain sex offenses and sex offenders within the criminal justice system, researchers widely agree that observed recidivism rates are underestimates of the true reoffense rates of sex offenders
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Saturday Let the Games Begin
by Poztate inthe start of a new memorial season is upon us.
saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.
the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.
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LostGeneration
Huh, I missed that letter as well. It will be very interesting if they happen to find me, as I will hit them head on with what are they doing now in response to the ARCs findings last year. If they give me a satisfactory answer I will accept their invitation. So that means there is a 0% chance of accepting the invitation. -
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"New light"?
by winstonchurchill inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.
so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..
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LostGeneration
So basically everyone where JWs don't even scratch the surface are screwed. Or the end is a long, long way away, assuming they are going to "preach" to these areas someday....
From JWFacts:
Being a Witness is predominantly contingent on where one is born and billions of people will never hear of the name Jehovah or Jesus. Living within the following countries - Bangladesh, Cambodia, China, India, Mali, Nepal, Niger, Pakistan, Thailand and Turkey are around 3 billion people, nearly half the global population. Yet the 2006 Watchtower Service Report showed that combined these have less than 40,000 Witnesses, not even 1 for every 70,000 people. These countries represent many religious (Muslim, Atheist, Buddhist and Hindu) and ethnic (African, Indian, Asian and European) backgrounds, showing that no particular group is genetically disposed to be "goat-like". In Pakistan and Bangladesh virtually all will be destroyed, the ratio of Witnesses to 'worldly people' is less than 1:1,000,000. In 2006, there was not a single Witness in Afghanistan. Is it fair for people who have never even heard of Jehovah to be destroyed at Armageddon?
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Tight Pants
by pixel intoday is friday.
so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.
tight pants!.
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LostGeneration
Hilarious! Love the third box with him "meditating" over his tight pants problem. All they forgot was a fourth box where dude has a tight pants burning ceremony. After all, you wouldn't want to donate Devil's pants to charity and forward the homosexual agenda!
These guys have lost it!
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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy
by pale.emperor inthis is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
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LostGeneration
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Christadelphian
by Billy1000 inmy name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
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LostGeneration
Even Roman scribes have mentioned Christ often referred to as Christus... corroborating that he did exist.
Sure, maybe he was here. And he said he said plenty of things about himself that didn't come true. Kinda makes him a false prophet, don't you think? Or just a delusional hippie who had a few followers.
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Un-****ing-Believable
by OneFingerSalute injust a few observations from this morning.
.. this morning as i was trying to choke back the bile that kept wanting to come up during the wt study one comment in particular screamed cult.. towards the very end as comments were being made about "counseling" others with "gracious" words one of the uber-dub minstral-serpents made this comment, "we see in the last image that the brother is holding a bible as he counsels the other brother.
we look closely at the picture and we can know exactly what he is counseling the brother about.
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LostGeneration
Nice comeback. That's the thing about the bible, you can get whatever you want out of it, you just have to have the right scriptures locked and loaded and you can get them to shuffle off with their head spinning.
I wonder if Warwick will end up being an aposta-creation machine. Once its over everyone is going to be back home and there is gonna be that letdown period. Can't wait, I'm sure we will hear some real stories coming out of that project.