i have read that fred franz said armageddon would come by/in 2000.... been through search and the cd library but other than quotes of how bad the world will be by then, i cant seem to find anything.. any help?.
oz.
w89 1/1 p. 12
The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.
This quote was later changed in the WT bound volume to:
He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our days.
i have read that fred franz said armageddon would come by/in 2000.... been through search and the cd library but other than quotes of how bad the world will be by then, i cant seem to find anything.. any help?.
oz.
It was in 1987 or 88... I remember that there was a sentence that
Paul said the end will come in this, 20th century...
But they changed it for the bound volume.
Can anybody help us to find the exact place?
old timers may remember that the wt used to print up "reports" of the assemblies in paperback booklet form during the late forties to early sixties.
(this predates my memory, btw.
) i have a copy of the 1963 report on the "everlasting good news" assembly of jehovah's witnesses.
In my country they had a good infallible method - put the shoe in between door and doorstep, so the housekeeper cannot close the door.
And it really worked!
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In my language "apostate" is translated as "garbage-man" or "trash-man".
No, I am not a garbage-man.
from the book of enoch: book of noah: .
1 and in those days, noah saw the earth had tilted and that it's destruction was near.".
there were also other observations that the laws of nature were suspended.
I preserved only R.H. Charles, George Schodde translations. But I used more of them, I don't remember anymore. I was very zelaous in beginning, but I was very disappointed at the end of translating.
Look, somebody said me "compare Jude 14 and Enoch 1:9". I am not stupid. I can compare it. And yes, there are the same statements. But? Does it mean that Jude quoted from the Book of Enoch? That's very poor evidence. If the similarity is the only evidence, then it is really miserable.
I don't say it because The Watchtower instructed me in that way, but I really considered it honestly and fairly. I do not believe that Godly inspired writter would use a source as The Book of Enoch is. Finally, Jude never said that he quotes it from The Book of Enoch.
Guy N. Woods' conclusion reflects my opinions:
There is more reason for supposing that the book of Jude is older than this so-called “Book of Enoch”
and that the author quoted from Jude rather than Jude from him.
I believe it is quite possible.
With respecting your scholarship, Leolaia, I must disagree with you again.
TITUS
I did. Thank you Isaac.
we all chewed on this article pretty well when the news first came out about the " overlapping anointed " concept , however we discussed so much on just those 2 paragraphs dealing with the new " generation " theory - that almost the rest of the article was overlooked .
our lurking inactive jw friend on the board sent us a copy of the april 15th.
i think you folks may find this interesting.. on pg.
I am sick of this "this generation" "noo lite". I am really sick of it. Even my mother said: They should simply stop to speculate about this! Why they don't write something useful for Christians life??!!
i know you may call me another russel or something, but i am just showing what i've found.
i am very amazed by what seems to be an uprising inside and outside of the jehovah's witness religion against the governing body and watchtower corporation.. it seems that all the scriptures about babylon and the apostasy apply to them today.
but check these two things out.
OMGJ
from the book of enoch: book of noah: .
1 and in those days, noah saw the earth had tilted and that it's destruction was near.".
there were also other observations that the laws of nature were suspended.
I am sorry, Leo, you misunderstood me. I didn't translate it IN ENGLISH, but FROM ENGLISH. But, while I was translating, I had to read and study several commentaries on the book of Enoch (by George Schodde and some others....), so - yes, I know what some basic terms mean in Ethiopic.
Okay, maybe if you want to understand the Judaism of Jesus' day. But I meant that you cannot learn anything about "real Enoch's" days. The guy who wrote that book was very fancy and imaginative.
And, no, BlueGrass, I don't speak about the Slavic Enoch.
And, again: Jude doesn't quote from the Book of Enoch. I thought that too. That's why I started to translate it. But now.... I must disagree with those who claim that.
Oh, Isaac.... I thought you are DFed. I don't know why I thought that... I really didn't know that you was never baptized. Where is your story, if it is here? Can you give me a link?
