I have read that fred franz said armageddon would come by/in 2000...
been through search and the cd library but other than quotes of how bad the world will be by then, i cant seem to find anything.
any help?
oz
armageddon, fred franz and the year 2000 - questions
by Aussie Oz 30 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Black Sheep
There was a WT article along those lines. It was altered for the bound volume.
Was it a talk?
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Titus
It was in 1987 or 88... I remember that there was a sentence that
Paul said the end will come in this, 20th century...
But they changed it for the bound volume.
Can anybody help us to find the exact place?
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Titus
w89 1/1 p. 12
The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.
This quote was later changed in the WT bound volume to:
He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our days.
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darth frosty
Also rumor around bethel was he said he wanted to live until the year 2000 to see the end. When I got to bethel in '94 he had just passed and people were lamenting the fact that he couldn't get his wish to live to see 2000.
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blondie
Did Fred Franz say the quote about the 20th century in 1989 WT or was it someone on the Writing Committee?
Note the explanation from AlanF on the H20 site:
The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century. The Watchtower, January 1, 1989, p. 12
Which words are not clear? The preaching work would be completed in our 20th century. No interpretation is necessary.
This material was written by one Gene Smalley of the Writing Staff. Smalley also happens to be the Bethel Librarian. He is known among Bethelites as a real ding-dong and an extremely nasty, unpleasant person. Smalley managed to get appointed in the early 1990s as a "Given One" largely because of his dishonest, bootlicking ways and his willingness to intellectually prostitute himself to various Governing Body members. Smalley was called on the carpet for writing this faux pas in The Watchtower. It got past the Governing Body because the sharper GB reviewers happened to be out of town during the regular review process, and the only one left was virtually senile. Given that the GB in principle ok'd the material, there wasn't much the GB could later say to Smalley.
You don't believe this stuff? Call Bethel yourself and verify it. Then report back here what you found.
After the dust settled, the Society changed the phrase "in our 20th century" to "in our day" in the bound volumes.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/5175/1/Field-Service-is-Officially-Over-Forever
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Titus
Blondie, when was it changed? I have the original Watchtower magazine (not bound volume) from 1989 in my language. There is said: "in our time".
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blondie
Think about it; it originally appeared in the loose issues of the magazine in 1989; the bound volumes come out at the end of 1989 and are distributed in January. They would have had to change it on the printing plates before they printed the bound volumes. Of course, they could have printed some with the old words and had to destroy them and reprint them, but I'm not privy to the goings on behind Bethel printing doors.
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Titus
Yes, but I have the issue from january of the same year, 1989. It is original issue, and it says: "in our time", not "in the 20th century". So they changed it immediately, I think.