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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

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  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  Wonderment

  Sorry, but I do not go to the Kingdom Hall or any other Church.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  Nobleheart:

  εγ? υπ?ρχω = I exist The Kingdom Interlinear has: "ego eimí."

  Observe that the NWT did not use "ego eimai" the modern Greek equivalent for "I am," nor did they use the modern Greek equivalent for "I have been" (NW English) (?χο υπ?ρξει) .

  Sorry for the font size. Could not adjust it in brief time.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  J. Hofer: what's your background on the greek language?

  I have a self-taught working knowledge of it. I believe anyone with some effort and discipline can accomplish a lot.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  Wonderment

  The Kingdom Interlinear Greek NT is translated directly from the Wescott and Hort Greek Text. All other editions of NWT into other languages are translated from the English edition.

  That said, I have found that there is enough leeway for the NWT translation teams to incorporate variant readings to those of the English edition. Whatever system they use, they are aware of many technical issues of Hebrew and Greek text readings as they go along, and sometimes choose one of those "original" readings instead of the English base whenever it is practical to do so. This subject has been controversial in this board, but what I stated is what I have experienced by doing comparison discoveries.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  Wonderment

  I just received my brand new Greek Bible:

  Η Αγ?α Γραφ?—Μετ?φραση Ν?ου Κ?σμου = The Holy Scriptures - New World Translation

  Why bother?

  First of all, it is one more addition to my collection of bibles. Secondly, there are times when I like to compare the NWT in different languages, especially Greek. I like to compare the Modern Greek translation with the original English one, and to the other Greek WT Bible, Kingdom Interlinear. Also, at times I like to compare the Septuagint with the NWT Greek of the OT. I find it interesting.

  There are many who believe this often made charge that the WT people have no capability to deal with Greek. I don't know about you, but I don't buy into that accusation at all.
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  Breath of fresh air: humanity from the Watchtower

  by sabastious in

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  just got paid a visit by one of my family members.

  she stops by my house every time they work my territory to see how i am doing and to take a peek at the little guy.

  she's a hard core dub and she's been pioneering for many many years.

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  sabastious:

  You are one fortunate guy to have a family member visit you after having knowledge of your stand.

  May I make a suggestion, i.e. if you haven't done it yet?

  Make sure you show your appreciation somehow... like sending her a card of good will. Or, just send her a note saying Hello!, and that you are thinking about her and her close ones. Or, whatever seems best since you know her well enough, without touching the WT doctrinal divide.

  Cheers!
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  Could you eat breakfast after watching this at Bethel?

  by Dogpatch in

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  this is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).

  address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.

  http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.

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  What I find surprising when looking at this video is the lack of vitality in them all. They look scared, lifeless. They certainly don't look like "the happiest people on earth" as the WT claims. Do they?

  Where is the holy spirit in these people? Godrulz will have a feast day if he watches this video.
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  "Dub"ble Standards!

  by sabastious in

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  3:8; it-2 pp.

  whether the wrongdoer is weak or wicked.. weakness is not synonymous with repentance.. (w95 1/1, pp.

  wrongdoing.

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  I see a difference in tone. It is obvious the WT does not want "appointed brothers" to lose their position unless they "should" because of a "scandal" in the congregation.
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  Biblical expertise of the GB and WT writing committees?

  by IsaacJ22 in

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  2. beliefs

  i was just wondering if i'm correct about something; namely, that the society's leaders don't appear to know much about the bible from a secular, scholarly, or historical perspective.. i've seen quotes posted here where they claim you don't need to be an expert to interpret the bible's true meaning.

  that's not exactly encouraging.

  but does anyone know much about their real world, practical knowledge of the bible from a non-religious perspective?.

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  What many don't seem to realize when the subject of WT writers comes up is that there is a dichotomy (division of two parts) between the Governing Body (GB) and the actual Writing Staff. Most GB members are not scholars per se, though some participe as contributors in some articles. The bulk though is done by the Writing Staff which is composed of better abled writers .

  However, the Writing Staff is severely handicapped by the GB. Otherwise, we would see more scholarly articles. There are some within the Writing Staff competent enough for that. But the GB don't let them work to their potential. It's all about control, more than trying to impress the world with their info.
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  Is this Stupid or is it Just me?

  by Kensho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check it out, i played with the band today (all brothers) at the hilton resort by the pool, nice gig but the mother of a 12 year old came up and asked us to sing happy b-day to him, wow very awkward the brother she approached said 'why don't you sing it to him" and shoved the microphone in her face, she refused about 4 or 5 times and was very frustrated we would not sing as this is a really common request of bands.

  she was really put on the spot, so she did it and we just stood there, thank god the crowd joined in singing.

  when it was over the brother turned to one of the band members and said we should remember to bring the b-day music on mp3 to play when this happens.

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  Wonderment

  Yes, Kensho, it is stupid, but that is what happens when we mortgage our mind to a religious entity.

  In fact, the bible points out that when a Christian can't decide whether things are right or wrong without the help of others, it is a sign of christian inmaturity. (Hebrews 5:14)