In public talks we would always hear about how we knew God's word was the truth because it was simple and clear. How God revealed the real truth to uneducated and ordinary people. The problem is that in reality something being simple or clear isn't an indicator of it's truthfulness at all. At one point people believed that the Sun rotated around Earth. A very simple idea and it seemed to explain what was going on but it turned out to be totally false. The reality of the solar system is actually much more complex with many more variables than that original model would have been able to explain. JWs don't want to take the time and effort to explore the true nature of life or existence. Instead they want "Simple Truths" handed to them, that's why they'll ignore anything that gives rise to any new or contradictory explanations.
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JWs and "Simple Truths"
by JW_Rogue inin public talks we would always hear about how we knew god's word was the truth because it was simple and clear.
how god revealed the real truth to uneducated and ordinary people.
the problem is that in reality something being simple or clear isn't an indicator of it's truthfulness at all.
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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM
by apocalypse ini have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".
the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".
this is huge.
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Couldn't you also create a newer DPA with two non-witnesses and that would supersede any other DPA? Then you could give it to your Doctor, the Elders wouldn't need to know anything about it. -
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Thinking of writing a book about jw's, what should I put in it?
by purrpurr ini've just finished reading alan miller's "fade from the truth", i enjoyed it and i love that it's freely available.
so i was thinking of writing a book of my own.
not an account of my life but more a simple step by step look at jw's and what they are really like?
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You can either do a autobiographical type of book, a scholarly criticism of the doctrines or go out on a limb and do a fictional account. It's not about what you write but how you write. -
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"But WHY would you want to know those things??"
by stuckinarut2 ini ran into an older sister who has always been very sweet.. it was a friendly chat...yet she pushed for a reason why my family have been missing from meetings for some time.
the question was deflected, until it just had to be said: "well, there have been some troubling and disturbing issues about the society especially the way things were handled during the royal commission, as well as many other issues".. she quickly cut in and said "but why would you want to know these things?
its best not to research and look at those sort of things - so we don't get upset!".
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LOL, Why would you want to stay ignorant? Working and striving for the goals of an organization that you really know nothing about? Isn't strange that JW.org has a whole news section where they frequently detail their legal victories and what they consider unfair persecution. Yet, the ARC never made that page because it was neither persecution or a legal victory. It was an honest examination of the top down directives from WT and the effect they have on real people. WT doesn't want JWs to see it. Every time these issues come up in local congregations, the average publisher just thinks that certain Elders didn't handle it well. What they don't know is Elders are being instructed on how to handle these cases. They aren't isolated incidents it's protocol. -
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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM
by apocalypse ini have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".
the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".
this is huge.
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I would fill it out at the kingdom hall so everyone sees you and your witnesses signing the document. Just never give it to the Elders or your doctor. Just keep "forgetting to bring it" eventually they will forget as well. Remember that these documents only come into play when you are unable to answer for yourself. If you're conscious and able to speak for yourself than you can change your mind at any time. -
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Twilight and other banned media
by purrpurr inthanks to online media of movies and books i've recently been watching the twilight series.
issues of quality aside i enjoyed it enough.
i mostly wanted to see what the fuss was about and have the fun of seeing a movie that was banned from the platform when it came out.
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Watch "The Giver" with a JW and check out the awkwardness as they notice the similarities between the Utopian society and WT. -
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organization obsesion
by Richard C B inwhy are you guys so obsessed with organizations?
there has to be order in the world and organised people!
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So then Richard what should the board focus on about the JWs? The organization pretty much exerts control over every baptized member, everything they do or say comes from the top down.
This website and forum is a disorganised cult
No, it's a voluntary web forum. You can leave and we won't make your family shun you.
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WT Resurrection Hope Absolutely Ridiculous As Illustrated In Their Publications
by JW_Rogue insaw this while browsing through the good news brochure:.
is it any wonder people aren't listening to jws anymore?
what an absolutely delusional scene!
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Saw this while browsing through the Good News brochure:
Is it any wonder people aren't listening to JWs anymore? What an absolutely delusional scene! A 17th century sailor comes into the truth, shaves his beard (apparently beards will still be bad in the new order), and befriends a mandarin speaking Chinese man. LOL This picture sums up the new WT style, nothing is too ridiculous to say or illustrate. They are targeting those with child like intellects ready to believe anything and everything.
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Banned from the second school!
by purrpurr ini've been told by a jw friend that when her hall recently had a refurb that big changes were made to the second school.. one, a large sign has been placed on the door telling people not to use it and to sit in the main hall itself.. two,that all the chairs which used to face the large windows looking into the main hall are now side on to the window facing the wall instead.. this is because "so many people were sitting out in there!
people were finding all manner of exhuses to sit-in there and the brothers want us to all be together in the main hall!
" she said.. of course i didn't tell her what i really thought of this but seriously?
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This is a new directive from the circuit overseer so that the hall looks more full and everyone is paying more attention. Used to be some groups would get together in the back and socialize for most of the meeting. Well, we can't have that now, can we? -
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"What IS True Love?" Watchtower Propaganda Review/Commentary
by WatchtowerReviewz inmy latest review for watchtower's most recent feature length propaganda film.
(not safe if sober.).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn6lxfw_qp8.
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Could you please do "Walking By Faith, Not By Sight" next? That is by far my most hated WT propaganda film. Loved you're review of this one. Basically true love means someone who is loyal to the JWs. If they're not "spritual" the relationship will fail. Of course that isn't true but that's how WT presents it.
