i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.
does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?
or is that just my wishful thinking?
The shunning practice needs to be tweaked for sure. However, in many instances, this type of treatment is absolutely necessary. I take it as a case by case scenario.
No, it's never really necessary especially between family members. JWs are grownups with their own minds if someone has done something truly reprehensible they can decide for themselves to not associate with that person. That is different from disfellowshipping which is forced upon the congregation.
there is a plethora of convention photos on my instagram this morning.
(a lot of my jw friends have forgotten i'm on their followers list) .
smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'nope, i'm not giving up.
Most of this is fake, they are just trying to get some likes on facebook or expand their social network.
i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.
does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?
or is that just my wishful thinking?
I had thought this before when I was younger. Probably because the organization makes out like everyone's lives on the outside are miserable. Especially young people, they are all addicts, sexual deviants, or just losers. Oh, and you'll definitely get some girl pregnant who really don't want to be with at all. It's only now that I'm older that I realize you can live a good clean life if that is what you want and not for religious reasons.
this when i believed, i said no one really believes armageddon is imminent because we would sell our possessions and preach the remaining short time , i said we all like a each way bet.
i was always a loose canon with the microphone.
i once said if bible was in movie form jws would be forbidden to watch..
Armageddon has always been 'imminent' but has never come, in almost 140 years of the JW religion. More than a few are well aware of that even if they won't say it out loud.
Older ones have been making many comments like this lately. Stating that they never thought they would graduate high school before the end or make it past the year 2000. Of course, they follow it up by saying that is why we must have faith in the resurrection.
we often have debates on this site about what was written in the bible and why.
there are also debates about which bible is better .
then there's the debate about if the quran is really the better book or more accurate.
JWs would say the bible is mainly for people living in the "last days" and people in ancient times had miracles, eyewitness testimony, and texts where read at the synagogues etc. The light keeps getting brighter blah, blah, blah. LOL
ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
They are trying to inoculate the sheep for when this issue is brought up.
For them to state this during a convention only means that they are loosing followers over this issue. Going apostate has got to be at an all time high then ever before in history due to the internet.
Hey assholes, you inspired from god mother fuckers are the ones who came up with the date. own it!
I think they are trying to draw a parallel between 1975 and the generation teaching. Although the generation teaching didn't set a specific date, it was widely believed that the new system would be here shortly after the year 2000. I think the video wasn't directed at older ones, they were there and they know what happened. Instead it was really meant to be for younger JWs who went through the whole generation disappointment. To try to show that disappointments have happened before (without admitting error) but it is possible to stay faithful. By setting the video series in the past they are also trying to get young ones to believe they are part of some special heritage passed on from generation to generation.
growing up as a teenager, i would occasionally get some counseling for having my hair a bit too long by a couple of elders in the congregation.
one time i cut my hair shorter than usual and one elder said i was cutting it too short!
so it made me feel like anything i did wouldn't satisfy them.
My belief is that the org doesn't like these hairstyles/beards because it could lead to you identifying with a group of people other than JWs. It's the same reason they don't want young people to dress like skaters, rockers, surfers, athletes, etc. They want everyone who's not a JW to be part of the "out" group.
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Im surprised people have voted Stephen Lett. He's a bumbling old fool but i think he genuinely believes the stuff he's saying. I thought it'd be a Tony Tightpants washout.
Maybe that is what he wants people to think. If you rewatch the "we need money" Broadcast he hosted, you'll see he isn't averse to lying to millions of people while talking down to them.
i've noticed that some elders will insist on getting a special bethel speaker for memorials, special talks, or sometimes for no reason at all!
i believe they are trying build connections they can use later, but who pays for it?
the congregation does and as a former account servant i can tell you airfare isn't all that cheap.
$1100, cheaper than for a Circuit Assembly
Every 3 years doesn't seem so bad. I think the problem is that some Elders use it as a networking opportunity and want to know all the Bros from Bethel, when that isn't really what special talks are supposed to be about.
a nearby star, ross 128, about 11 light years away, seems to be putting out some rather remarkable radio waves.
discovered by the arecibo observatory in puerto rico (the one shown in the move contact) other observatories like the allen telescope array are set to begin observations in the next couple of days to make sure the signal really is coming from interstellar space and isn't caused by instrument malfunction or radio waves bouncing off satellites.
it could be anything at this point (but very-very unlikely aliens).
Satan works in mysterious ways, he would love for us to believe that there is other intelligent life out there. Then maybe we would question the whole genesis account of creation. I for one am determined not believe any evidence that life may exist on other planets just as I deny all the evidence for evolution right now. JK
