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What is true love video

by _Morpheus in

so i got coerced into watching this crap last night.

a few observations:.

1) it personified the witness mantra that doing more for the org = happiness, doing not enough = misery.

The whole movie is a scare tactic against marrying a "worldly" person. I know many JWs who aren't happy in their marriage. Why does the worldly guy have to be workaholic? Why is it such big deal that he misses meetings? Maybe, if the wife stopped nagging him and accepted that he doesn't believe in the "truth" they could be happy. Of course WT will never show that some people don't believe in the "truth", they have to make up some personality flaw that doesn't allow them to be JWs.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

JW_Rogue

Opsudei

Then, Jerusalen was destroyed in 70 AD, and they invented that Jesus predicted it. But now, this destruction of the city was convenient to invent that his body disappeared when his disciples visited the tomb. Because all tombs were destroyed by the romans, no one could verify if that story was true or false. When this jewish sect was shunned by reorganized pharisees in the 80s and 90s, they invented that Jesus predicted that they would be expelled from the synagoges. Indeed, I believe that at every emerged problem, the Christian scribes decided to invent a prediction for this situation. ....In the beginning of the second century, some guys believed that the matter is evil, then some Christian scribes decided to invent the bodily resurrection, so as to ensure that he resurrected in flesh. Of course, the virginity of Mary and other stories were the product of gentile christians to make Jesus like the pagan gods.

So you believe that the Gospels were written by more than one person and altered? Where did you get this info? I'd like to look into this.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

JW_Rogue

HisClarkness

The Father is God. Jesus is the perfect reflection of God so when we read about Jesus and his love,mercy, forgiveness, etc we are seeing the Father in reflection. The angry vengeful god of the Old Testament is only who the Isrealites perceived to be God at the time. Yahweh, the God of the Israelites, was a conglomeration of tribal gods that the Moses gave to the people to represent the "true god". Jesus came to truly reveal the Father's personality which has nothing to do with the Old Testament. To borrow a common JW phrase, it's like Jesus brought "new light" about God. He was NEVER this jealous vengeful God; he was always a loving merciful Father. Not all events in the OT were truly Gods doings. For example, it was never God who commanded the Israelites to exterminate men women and children of entire nations.

Then perhaps God is not as Jesus described either maybe that is just how Jesus perceived God to be. It would be reasonable then to re-imagine who God is now that thousands of years have passed, do you not agree?

This all leads to a thought that I had the other day. When reading the WT they often use the phrase "make God real in your life" or something similar. They will also say that God should be viewed as a personal friend. Here is the thing if God is my personal friend then I should not have to work to "make him real". It would be obvious that he is real and influencing my life but that isn't the case. What is suggested instead is that you pray for matters in your life, then however those matters turn out, give credit to God and your prayers. So while I still like to think that there are higher powers than man at work in the universe I find it hard to believe that any personal God is watching over us.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

JW_Rogue

Opusdei, that was the exact point that I was getting to. It seems to me that whoever wrote the gospels and perhaps Jesus himself were in fact trying to reinvent God's personality. A way to say that God was not really the way he was portrayed earlier and to come up with a more appealing version.

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Yahweh's wonderful creation

by fulltimestudent in

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when i thought of myself as a christian witness of yahweh attempting to be a footstep follower of jesus, psalm 104 was one of my favourites.

if i was ever in some wonderful scenic area, psalm 104 would jump into my mind, and i'd start to praise yahweh and jesus.. but if something horrible came to mind as in the following video, i'd always think of the favourite christian escape clause, it's all because of adam's sin.

but any connection between natural animal savagery and adam's sin is never logically made in the bible.. interestingly, the supposedly inspired psalm 104 (nwt-the grey one i guess) itself says that:.

JW_Rogue

It is amazing that when you think about it, every natural process that occurs on earth has been contaminated with sin. Just how would this new perfect world work when all the natural rules of the universe must be changed? We won't eat animals and animals won't eat each other, I guess we'll need an abundance of grass to feed all the wild animals. God will have to change the core of the Earth so we don't have devastating Earthquakes any longer. Oh, and tweak the atmosphere to get rid of tornadoes and hurricanes. Change some of the other planets so we'll have a place to go when the Earth overpopulates and keep recharging that pesky sun before it dies out and destroys everyone.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

JW_Rogue

Then who is the father?

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Gross hypocrisy in September 15, 2015 Watchtower

by Island Man in

ask any jw the question "why do jehovah's witnesses impose their views on others?

we do not impose our views on anyone!".

do you impose your views on others?

JW_Rogue

What they mean to say is this "Please stop trying to sell Herbalife at congregation meetings" of course they can't just say that. The whole idea of not imposing ideas on others is talking about inside the congregation they don't really care about people outside the org.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

JW_Rogue

So this week's WT study was all about Jesus and the miracles he performed. According to the study this proves that God wants to heal mankind in the same way. Because as we all know Jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father. Now I know that Jesus himself said this but if you actually look at the old testament it is very hard to find a correlation between the two personalities.

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It’s Official: UFO-Worshiping Raëlians Are No Longer Zionists

by freemindfade in

caught this in a news feed and absolutely had to read it, first of all i don't know where to start with how awesome this is.

ok lets start with the name.

heeb... thats the news source... i wont say any more on that.... the saddest part of this is what i read of this wacky sci-fi religion, as bat shit crazy as it is, it still makes more sense than jehovahs witnesses.. without further waiting.... http://heebmagazine.com/its-official-ufo-worshiping-raelians-are-no-longer-zionists/55304.

JW_Rogue

It's a good movement but they need to focus on the big picture. lol

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Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

by Viviane in

recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

JW_Rogue

Marvin, that was tongue in cheek nothing personal, carry on.

JW_Rogue

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