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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  I think the alternative is whatever you think is the right way to live. I can't tell you what your alternative should be. I know that mine will likely be thinking on my own and being free from any religious organization. Once you take off the WT glasses it becomes way too easy to see the bible for what it is, a collection of man made books. To be sure there are some good principles to be found in the bible but also a lot of useless history and backwards thinking. The reality is you can take what you like and dismiss the rest of it, you can explore other ideas and religions and learn and grow. You are your own authority and must take your own position. This transfer of power from an ancient book to a man made organization was and is wrong. Isn't the Bible supposed to be God's gift to mankind? Then why is it that only a select few (in most Christian churches) are allowed to interpret it and apply it to modern times? If God inspired these writings for us then they should be clear and understandable. It should be obvious what the message is but it is not and humans have taken advantage of that. Just look at the mountains of books that the WT has produced, it should not be needed if we already have God's inspired word.
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  To all JDub lurkers: How can you continue to preach knowing that you are telling lies?

  by macys in

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  2. bible

  this is a damn serious question.

  you must know by now that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce and that 607 was initially picked by ct russell by using his "pyramid scheme" measurements.

  there is no hiding these facts yet you continue to preach this nonsense.

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  I mean seriously. This is a damn serious question. You must know by now that Jerusalem was NOT destroyed in 607 BCE and that 607 was initially picked by CT Russell by using his "pyramid scheme" measurements. There is no hiding these facts yet you continue to preach this nonsense.
  How about the teaching of the "overlapping generations?" You can not be serious!
  On those two fundamental doctrines alone your whole belief is in the trash.The list I was thinking about is actually quite extensive but for the sake of time I just mentioned these two huge problems.
  And you claim to worship the "God of Spirit and Truth?" Are you f*cking kidding me?

  If you just go in door to door and quickly offer magazines but never go on return visits or bible studies then it's not an issue. Most householders won't bring up those topics because they don't know or care about them. They'll take the magazines and more than likely toss them. In fact I did this even before waking up, field service was always about showing up and being seen by others. I knew the chances of me converting someone were slim to none.
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  JWs and New Year's Resolutions

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone else find it odd that jws don't do new year's resolutions?

  i have never read anything about it in any wt publication.

  yet, it is like some unwritten rule.

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  The religion likes to lay out how a person should live their life and they go WAAY overboard with their intrusiveness into people's lives in every area. They might see the idea of people's personal decisions as "vanity" and something they have no control over (which they have no business concerning themselves about - but they do)... It may start dangerous habits, such as Witnesses thinking. And they can't have people in the religion doing that now can they?

  I think it is about making JWs different, not for any real reason but just so they'll stand out. No matter what the Holiday is when asked about their plans JWs will end up talking about their religion. What they are after is more attention for the religion.
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  Infighting at the top?

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

  clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

  item: the constant harping about money and donations.

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  Could a power struggle be going on? Yes, but it could be simpler than that. It could be that they want to make changes that will externally make them look more progressive and liberal. At the same time they want to tighten control over members who are already in and centralize the finances. Or it could be that they feel they need to rebrand because they aren't growing and are in a financial hole. They may realize that they will lose some members but feel that in the long run they will grow.
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  JWs and New Year's Resolutions

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone else find it odd that jws don't do new year's resolutions?

  i have never read anything about it in any wt publication.

  yet, it is like some unwritten rule.

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  I understand how they could say the celebration is pagan and also that the holiday encourages bad behavior, but setting goals is generally a good thing to do. The WT at any other time of the year would encourage goal setting, especially "spiritual goals".
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  JWs and New Year's Resolutions

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
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  anyone else find it odd that jws don't do new year's resolutions?

  i have never read anything about it in any wt publication.

  yet, it is like some unwritten rule.

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  Anyone else find it odd that JWs don't do New Year's Resolutions? I have never read anything about it in any WT publication. Yet, it is like some unwritten rule. This one is really puzzling to me, how could setting goals for the next year possibly be bad?
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  Of course, if your family are not motivated by your 'bold stand for what you believe in', because they believe it all, so they treat you as though you were dead.. Ah well, you've only lost everybody who is important to you, eh? Never mind (!). At least you have lowered the attendance figures and no longer support the mostly irrelevant little cult known as the Watchtower.. How happifying.

  Exactly! Even the ones who are fakers will shun you because they don't want to leave and or get shunned themselves. No one really knows who the true believers are and their is no way to find out without exposing yourself. There are no private, off the record discussions in JW land.
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  Re: New Songs for Memorial

  by pixel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to all congregations.

  re: new songs for memorial.

  dear brothers:.

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  Yes, why new songs on a special holiday? Wouldn't you want some traditional songs that everyone knows how to sing already? To me this is way to make families sing these songs at home. Practicing the song is further brainwashing for parents and children. Many will do it because they won't want the congregation to sound terrible singing a song they have never even heard.
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  The really cool feeling of community within JWs

  by Phaedra in

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  2. experiences

  i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

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  The feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.
  Haven't experienced it since I left.

  I see what you're saying but I think even this is conditional. If someone in the little groups doesn't like you or your family then you won't be invited to all the activities. Or sometimes they will invite people after field service, so if you didn't make it out in service you were forgotten. Another thing is most of the friendships are very superficial. Nobody wants to reveal too much because they could be seen as being "spiritually weak". What kind of friendship is that? The only real friends I have had are the ones I grew up with and even with those I wouldn't feel free to voice all my opinions about "the truth".

  
  
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  Literature being discontinued, including Isaiah's Prophecy and Reasoning book

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  congregations get an annual letter that tells what can be ordered for literature (it's mainly a list of audio cds/dvds for the deaf), but this time it included publications that will be discontinued, and this included the isaiah's prophecy book and the reasoning book, and i think i saw the draw close to jehovah book.

  i meant to take a picture of the letter but forgot.

  the branch is only going to give what they have on stock, when that stock depletes that's it, you won't be able to order those publications anymore.. this is in canada so i don't know if this is worldwide..

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  Not surprised that they are discontinuing the Isaiah book, it was so dull and drab. As another poster brought out the whole book is about the restoration of the Israelites to their homeland. So each chapter had the same "modern day fulfillment", it was really a stretch. It's really a historical record and has no particularly great meaning for us today. Their was never any need for a verse by verse prophetic take but we endured it.

  What surprises me is that they are doing away with the Revelation book. How many times did we study that book? Each time being told that it was one of the deeper things that needed to be studied closely. Now we don't need it at all, isn't that amazing? I wouldn't be surprised if they let some time pass so that people forget about the explanations given in the Revelation book. Then they come out with a new book on Revelation incorporating the new understandings of Jesus parables that they have been doing lately. Of course that one will then be the one that is so important to study deeply. LOL