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  Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

  by Perry in

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  the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

  whatever begins to exist had a cause.

  therefore the universe had a cause.

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  And something from nothing isn't magic? At least with magic you start with a magician. Materialists start with literally nothing. Why isn't this happening now?

  We don't know that it was something from nothing, we can only observe our physical universe and come up with models of how the universe formed. Many scientist say that time didn't even exist until the big bang, that the physical and chemical laws that govern the universe didn't exist yet. While that may sound magical it is based on something. The idea of personal God who is outside of our physical universe but still controlling matters isn't based on anything observable. It is a combination of speculation and faith, not evidence. It is my opinion that there will never be a time when man will be able to have all the answers. That's okay we don't need to have them. Saying "I don't know" is better than just making something up.
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  Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

  whatever begins to exist had a cause.

  therefore the universe had a cause.

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  Once you accept a cause beyond our space/time universe Occams razon doesn't apply. The simplest explanation is that space and time were manipulated as opposed to waiting around for 14 billion years.
  Think of when you are looking for a particular scene in a movie that you wish to replay to show someone. You can certainly start from the beginning and make your guest wait an hour until the scene emerges, or you could just hit the Fast Forward button.Which is the simplest course of action, assuming the technology?

  This is called magical thinking with no basis in any observable facts. JWs specialize in these types of explanations.
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  Possible Names For New XJW Books...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  just what it sounds like list some titles that you think would be good for an xjw memoir or book.

  just for fun:.

  -the real, real life.

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  Just what it sounds like list some titles that you think would be good for an XJW memoir or book. Just for fun:

  -The Real, Real Life

  -The Pill Less Swallowed

  -Revelations & Regulations

  -Young Person Asks: Am I In A Cult?

  -How To Wash Your Brain
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  Don't Want To Be At The RC This Year...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  the whole time i'll just be thinking about what effect all those crazy loyalty videos will have on my family.

  i can venture to guess that they'll be wound up and determined to "stay loyal" because this "is the truth" and "this system can't last much longer".

  i have to go because not doing so would raise too much suspicion but i'm really dreading it.

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  Why not try for "Security?" Then you can muscle any protesting apostates from the venue!

  The brothers don't do security at our venue, we actually have a small group of real security guards on call (not JWs). I think this has to do with lawsuits from people who were "escorted" out of the venue by attendants.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

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  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  Thank you all for your advice. I know you mean well but its too late to go back now, I've already told them I'm going to do it. Honestly sometimes I feel like I have a split personality, jw me and whatever the real me is. I guess the Jehovah's witness in me just took over this time. I feel so alone and I just want to be accepted.

  There is still time, say you went over the articles again and you really feel like you need to work on your spirituality more before you'll be ready for such a big step. It is never too late, until you actually take the plunge. In a few years you'll be happy to be out and still be able to talk to your family. Stay strong, the desire to please others can be powerful but stay true to yourself.
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  Why is Mother's Day wrong?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so why is celebrating mother's day wrong according to witnesses?.

  is it not an opportunity to show respect to the giver of life (mother) and therefore god, the originator of families?.

  does it not give an opportunity for members of the family to give a hard working mother a day off?

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  There is only one mother and she is in Brooklyn, NY
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  If WWI Had Not Started In 1914

  by JW_Rogue in

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  would jws ever have arisen the way they did?

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  Maybe you're right I guess people in the early 1900s were easy targets for religious scammers. If you read some of the stuff Rutherford wrote back then you'll realize just how ignorant people were and how much unquestioning respect they had for anything related to the Bible.
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  Where did Jehovah go ?

  by Deleteandrestart in

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  for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.

  so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".

  the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .

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  Spoiler alert: God's not real and never was! Might as well write a book called "Draw Close To Your Unicorn."
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  If WWI Had Not Started In 1914

  by JW_Rogue in

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  would jws ever have arisen the way they did?

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  Jesus: Whatcha doin' Satan?

  Satan: Oh, just causing worldwide chaos and destruction

  Jesus: That's it! Down to Earth with you! You Son of a B*tch!

  Perhaps you're right but I always thought that "fulfilled prophecy" was how they grew the religion after Russel died. That and prophesying that 1925 would bring a government ruled by ancient worthies who would be wowed by modern technology. LOL
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  "well beyond the intent of the scriptures" 7:44

  by biblexaminer in

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  if you have the jw app running on your tablet, watch the latest (may) governing broadcast and hear tony the jackass, and when you get to 7 minutes and 44 seconds ...hit the pause button.. read the words at the bottom of the screen as per the jw app close captioning.. "well beyond the intent of the scriptures" .

  he is describing the governing body past, like the ghost of christmas past.

  yes, the governing body past were a bunch of freaking yahoo's violating 1 cor.

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  They were still God's channel but they were imperfect that day. Still if you were alive back then you had to believe it 100% even if you could show that it was false from the bible. Today you have to believe everything coming from the GB even if it's as trivial as tight pants and where you take the family for vacation.