since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.
also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.
active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.
Yeah you stupid idiots! because you guys didn't get off your fat asses and knock on doors, I now have to kill all these people but their blood is on YOUR hands not mine.....thus saith the lord god Jehovah.
Wait a second, I thought if we didn't preach "even the stones would cry out," I think we should test it out. That would be pretty amazing, talking rocks studying the Bible Teach book with people. LOL Really though which one is it? God needs people to do this work for him or he doesn't?
in this summer's convention theres a video showing the tale of a rather geeky plain looking brother whose relating the tale of how the prettiest girl in the whole school fancied him (!
) and sent him a love letter, the letter is read and it says .
"i think we would get along,i'm attracted to you, i like your personality, and that's not all, i think we could have fun together.
I agree the wording of the letter is changed to make the boys decision sound more dramatic. Why would the girl say "I hope you make the right decision" or "I'm attracted to you" that sounds very formal for a teenage girl. Sounds like it was written by WT to make his choice seem more important. The truth is it was probably a series of flirty text messages but they changed that because that would mean the brother gave her his phone number which they probably don't feel would be a good example.
another "gem" from the convention.
there's a talk about remaining neutral.
one of the topics they say jw's should avoid is the topic of "peoples lives matter" which is barely veiled code for black lives matter.
How do you not have a thought one way or another especially if your a minority group? I could see saying not to get involved or protest but everyone will have an opinion whether they express it or not.
i was called an "ugly person" by a jw because of my book.
this sister said that she doesn't mind me not being a jw but she hates me because i trashed jws in my book.
i told her that i didn't trash it i just wrote what i have learned about the org in 15 years.
First of all I know JWs very good. I have seen with my own eyes how much they hate people and how much they are jealous. So since I am DFed I knew they will use every opportunity to insult me if they will see me. Secondly brothers and sisters who know me know that there is no point to argue with me as I have good knowledge of the Bible.
As JWs we were taught to quietly look down on non-JWs and put down any accomplishments they may achieve. Everything in this system is just not good enough for a JW, except the organization, whatever they do is perfect and good. Sometimes I think people are even more jealous of faders and inactive ones because they aren't following the rules (field service, meetings, prayer) but haven't been punished. Secretly many JWs would love to skip those things themselves but don't have the will to do so.
i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
Search for the site Bereoan Pickets they review WT study articles and give bible based Christian viewpoints. I believe they also have a forum to discuss bible topics.
in fact, only three books of the hebrew scriptures, 1 chronicles, job, and zechariah, mention satan, which means “resister.” why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the messiah?.
3 apparently, jehovah did not want to give satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the hebrew scriptures to discussing him and his activity.
jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the scriptures was to identify the messiah and lead god’s people to him.. .
Jehovah God then said: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad. Now in order that he may not put his hand out and take fruit also from the tree of life and eat and live forever,
Here the great Jehober lets us all know that Satan did NOT lie to Eve, and the plan the creator of all things needed a Plan-B asap cuz he F-ed up.
Yeah, that part never made sense so then in effect humankind could have had freedom and eternal life but God wanted us to die instead.
in fact, only three books of the hebrew scriptures, 1 chronicles, job, and zechariah, mention satan, which means “resister.” why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the messiah?.
3 apparently, jehovah did not want to give satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the hebrew scriptures to discussing him and his activity.
jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the scriptures was to identify the messiah and lead god’s people to him.. .
The weird part is the rest of the article is about not being naive about Satan's tactics. It's so odd that they would even add this part. Why bring up a point that you can't readily explain? A point that goes against the theme of the article.
in fact, only three books of the hebrew scriptures, 1 chronicles, job, and zechariah, mention satan, which means “resister.” why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the messiah?.
3 apparently, jehovah did not want to give satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the hebrew scriptures to discussing him and his activity.
jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the scriptures was to identify the messiah and lead god’s people to him.. .
In fact, only three books of the Hebrew Scriptures, 1 Chronicles, Job, and Zechariah, mention Satan, which means “Resister.” Why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the Messiah?
3 Apparently, Jehovah did not want to give Satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the Hebrew Scriptures to discussing him and his activity. Jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the Scriptures was to identify the Messiah and lead God’s people to him.
Or it could be that Satan wasn't an important part of Jewish beliefs at the time. Perhaps the bible isn't this coherent book with a singular theme at all. Instead of just making up an explanation that fits the doctrine, more research should be done. Are these simplistic explanations supposed to help people with doubts? I'm not sure why they would even want to point this out?
i think this is a well developed discussion, of ian stevenson's work in investigating people's past lives claims.
it's a little long.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0attm9hgcdw.
What if life after death is not like some continuous series of lives but a complete restart? Think about like this: right now, all manner of life is being created everyday. Of course you don't experience those lives because currently you are experiencing your own reality through your brain. Now let's say you pass on, your consciousness no longer exists it is not passed on in anyway to anyone else. You're nothing, you cease to exist. However, lives are still being created and a consciousness must still inhabit them. It could be that a new consciousness would be experienced first hand but without any connection to any past life.
hi does anyone have any bad ministry experiences to share or really funny ones?.
some of mine were:.
- having water sprayed on us with a hose.
-Naked guy opens the door with a condom on, laughs then closes the door
-Teenagers start playing ozzy osbourne/black sabbath, they say they worship the devil at their house
-Girl opens the door with wife beater shirt and no bra, listens to entire presentation and takes the mags
