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  Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!

  by anointed1 in

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  yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.

  we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.

  after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.

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  Science is a method for discovering objective reality.

  It is the very opposite of religion in every way.
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  Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.

  we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.

  after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.

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  What do you mean by "science is the religion adults"?
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  Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.

  we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.

  after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.

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  cofty

  some of the molecules learned (again by experience) that they could continue to exist and replicate if they encased themselves in a bag full of the original organic goo

  It would be good if you did some reading on evolution before you tried to defend it.
  
  
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  Or was it Designed???

  by Slidin Fast in

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  2. beliefs

  awake!

  1 2017 says on its back page.

  the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.

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  According to the bible's explanation, the present features we observe in animals that are used for hunting

  Only somebody who is woefully ignorant of natural history could say something so incredible.
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  Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.

  in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.

  feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".

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  cofty

  Great idea for a series.

  On this one I would go a different way. I would agree that Acts 15 is unequivocal that christians must abstain from blood. I would focus on context to establish how early christians would understand that decree.

  Briefly...

  1 - Acts 15 was about a dispute in the early church. Did gentile christians have to get circumcised and keep the law?

  2 - The final decision was that they did not but in order for gentile and Jewish christians to enjoy fellowship - and not hinder the good news - there were a few "necessary things" to be observed.

  3 - These necessary things were the same things non-Israelites had to observe when sojourning in Israel in OT times. Fornication (especially forbidden marriages), Idolatry and blood

  4 - If we examine the Law on blood in the OT we find that it only related to killing an animal for food. If a beast was found "already dead" it could be eaten unbled with impunity. Moses even encouraged Israelites to sell such beasts to non-Jews. Blood represented the life that had been taken and which had to be returned to the life-giver. Since nobody gives their life to donate blood the decree to abstain from blood does not apply.

  This also explains why the "necessary things" do not include murder, rape and theft. Jews and non-Jews share a taboo regarding these things.

  See here for fuller account...
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  Or was it Designed???

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awake!

  1 2017 says on its back page.

  the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.

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  All the wonderful "designs" we so admire in nature are for the purpose of getting laid and/or killing other wonderful things.
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  Cyprus JW's Military Service

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  i work with a nurse who served for 2 years in the army of cyprus as is compulsory in that country.

  i happened to ask about jw's and their consequential punishment for not doing it.

  he laughed and stated that since 2009 they have to do it and that he personally knew several that 'served.

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  That's very surprising!

  I think Cyprus comes under the oversight of the London Branch.
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  Birthday Wishes Welcome!

  by LifesNotOver in

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  many of you don't know me or won't remember me.

  i left the jw's and my husband and my home last september - forging a new life in a new town.

  i haven't posted here for many months, but have been reading most days.

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  Happy birthday to you. Here's a song for you from the gorgeous Claire Grogan

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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  Exploring the case for mandatory reporting: a summary of a roundtable hosted by the NSPCC..
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

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  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  I think those are two legitimate questions. It's worrying that so many are quick to demonise somebody who even wants to have a sensible conversation about it.

  I don't think anybody is trying to defend the WT's appallingly inadequate child welfare policies. The solutions are not entirely simple though. Yes if there is a report of an attack on a child the authorities must be told but not every scenario is clear-cut. Even the NSPCC the biggest child welfare charity in the UK is against mandatory reporting laws. When you read their reasons they have a good point.

  I do think that enhanced DBS checks (criminal records) should be required for every elder and MS.