Here is why I think that doesn't work.
It doesn't really help to distinguish between eating and transfusing.
Acts 15 doesn't say don't eat blood, it says abstain from blood.
To a JW a human liver isn't sacred - blood is.
Posts by cofty
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32Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."
by Island Man ini'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.
in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.
feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".
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Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."
by Island Man ini'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.
in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.
feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".
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cofty
I agree very much with Steve. If we are genuinely interested in making a JW stop and think we must look for arguments that we could not have easily dismissed when we were active.
For example JWs are very aware of Jesus' words about washing hands but they will never agree that this overturns the prohibition on blood. They would assume that the Jerusalem Council were aware of this incident but they still wrote "abstain from blood".
Similarly, trying to distinguish between eating blood and transfusing blood won't work. To a JW abstain means exactly that. They are convinced blood is intrinsically sacred. We have to meet them at that point and work from there.
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Or was it Designed???
by Slidin Fast inawake!
1 2017 says on its back page.
the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.
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cofty
Good example sir82
Reaching these speeds involves the cheetah's skeleton, muscles, the specific proteins in the muscle fibres, energy systems and circulatory system. It also requires specific camouflage, claws, jaws teeth, digestive enzymes, eyesight and hearing and whole suite of instincts hard-wired into its brain as well as finely-tuned hormonal response.
I wonder what exactly it was like before the naked lady ate the apple.
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Scientology Superbowl Ad
by azor insimply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.
cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.
wtf..
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cofty
I heard an American talking about how much she enjoys the Superbowl. Among the things she loves were the commercials!
To us in the UK this just sounds odd. Sporting events have no commercials until half-time which is when you go and fetch drinks and snacks and channel-hop for 15 minutes. If it's on BBC there are no adverts at all.
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Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!
by anointed1 inyesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
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cofty
Science is a method for discovering objective reality.
It is the very opposite of religion in every way.
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Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!
by anointed1 inyesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
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cofty
What do you mean by "science is the religion adults"?
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Evolution knowledge prevailing over a Jehovah’s Witness!
by anointed1 inyesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
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cofty
some of the molecules learned (again by experience) that they could continue to exist and replicate if they encased themselves in a bag full of the original organic goo
It would be good if you did some reading on evolution before you tried to defend it.
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Or was it Designed???
by Slidin Fast inawake!
1 2017 says on its back page.
the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.
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cofty
According to the bible's explanation, the present features we observe in animals that are used for hunting
Only somebody who is woefully ignorant of natural history could say something so incredible.
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Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."
by Island Man ini'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.
in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.
feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".
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cofty
Great idea for a series.
On this one I would go a different way. I would agree that Acts 15 is unequivocal that christians must abstain from blood. I would focus on context to establish how early christians would understand that decree.
Briefly...
1 - Acts 15 was about a dispute in the early church. Did gentile christians have to get circumcised and keep the law?
2 - The final decision was that they did not but in order for gentile and Jewish christians to enjoy fellowship - and not hinder the good news - there were a few "necessary things" to be observed.
3 - These necessary things were the same things non-Israelites had to observe when sojourning in Israel in OT times. Fornication (especially forbidden marriages), Idolatry and blood
4 - If we examine the Law on blood in the OT we find that it only related to killing an animal for food. If a beast was found "already dead" it could be eaten unbled with impunity. Moses even encouraged Israelites to sell such beasts to non-Jews. Blood represented the life that had been taken and which had to be returned to the life-giver. Since nobody gives their life to donate blood the decree to abstain from blood does not apply.
This also explains why the "necessary things" do not include murder, rape and theft. Jews and non-Jews share a taboo regarding these things.
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Or was it Designed???
by Slidin Fast inawake!
1 2017 says on its back page.
the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.
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cofty
All the wonderful "designs" we so admire in nature are for the purpose of getting laid and/or killing other wonderful things.