Yes that's right. It illustrates how bad a lot of science reporting is in the popular press. If you Google this story you will find plenty of journalists claiming that the fossil find is new.
Posts by cofty
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First Humans May Have Been European
by cofty inthe fossil record of early hominins in africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into asia and europe.
the hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "out of africa".. however a new paper from researchers at the university of toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees.
crucially these fossils were not discovered in africa but in greece and bulgaria.. the team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the sahara pushed the ancestors of graecopithecus freybergi further north towards the eastern mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.. this hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!.
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First Humans May Have Been European
by cofty inthe fossil record of early hominins in africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into asia and europe.
the hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "out of africa".. however a new paper from researchers at the university of toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees.
crucially these fossils were not discovered in africa but in greece and bulgaria.. the team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the sahara pushed the ancestors of graecopithecus freybergi further north towards the eastern mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.. this hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!.
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cofty
perhaps a bit too early to be conclusive?
Yes definitely.
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First Humans May Have Been European
by cofty inthe fossil record of early hominins in africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into asia and europe.
the hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "out of africa".. however a new paper from researchers at the university of toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees.
crucially these fossils were not discovered in africa but in greece and bulgaria.. the team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the sahara pushed the ancestors of graecopithecus freybergi further north towards the eastern mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.. this hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!.
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cofty
that would explain many things that we can tend to put solely down to intelligence
Eh?
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First Humans May Have Been European
by cofty inthe fossil record of early hominins in africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into asia and europe.
the hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "out of africa".. however a new paper from researchers at the university of toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees.
crucially these fossils were not discovered in africa but in greece and bulgaria.. the team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the sahara pushed the ancestors of graecopithecus freybergi further north towards the eastern mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.. this hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!.
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cofty
The fossil record of early hominins in Africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into Asia and Europe. The hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "Out of Africa".
However a new paper from researchers at the University of Toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor Graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees. Crucially these fossils were not discovered in Africa but in Greece and Bulgaria.
The team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the Sahara pushed the ancestors of Graecopithecus freybergi further North towards the Eastern Mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.
This hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!
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Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World
by Brokeback Watchtower inhe was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.
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cofty
What is the absurd ideology you refer to here? The idea of humans being born with a "blank slate"?
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Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World
by Brokeback Watchtower inhe was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.
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cofty
Stephen Pinker's "The Blank Slate" provides an insurmountable obstacle to Marxism. It isn't written for that purpose but he proves conclusively that we possess an innate human nature. Marxism has to assume that humans are blank slates that can be moulded to act against their own interests.
When this impossible project fails those who will not comply must be eradicated.
Even apart from Marxism so much harm has and is being done based on this absurd ideology.
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Brilliant Video about Islam!!
by ILoveTTATT2 injust brilliant explanation about how the regressive left is actually racist:https://www.facebook.com/151461511738/videos/10154441547421739/?hc_ref=arq4rhbdrrwbt9u_18shruoxiluhgv6bjjawxftkcgyuwnai12qccb_qjb847yj0cam.
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cofty
Just recently finished reading Maajid Nawaz' autobiography "Radical". I would also recommend Ed Hussain's book "The Islamist". Nobody understands an ideology like its defectors.
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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?
by cofty inif you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
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cofty
Truthseeker - The following phrases show that you have a lot of very basic misconceptions about how evolution works...
- I have never seen a cat give birth to a dog or a monkey to a human
- You don't just grow a pair of eyes because you crawled out of a cave
- It's possible that the story of Adam and Eve (being the first modern humans)
- an improvement over prehistoric humans
- the whole concept of evolution is an improvement over it's genetic predecessor.
- And if a species wants improvement to survive
- scientists should at least be able to find a mechanism in the DNA to start subtle changes
By the way the evidence for the evolution of fish to tetrapods is abundant in the fossil record.
Evolution is a Fact #11 Tiktaalik
Evolution is a Fact #18 Fish Fingers
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North Korea viral video and JW Comparison.
by pleaseresearch ini watched this video yesterday from this brave young north korean woman.
hearing her share her experiences living in her country and what the people go through on a day to day basis is so very similar to jws today and how we lived.. please watch and tell me your thoughts.. thank you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ijj3insyk.
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cofty
The great Christopher Hitchens (rip) compared Christianity to North Korea several times
Not quite. He called an eternity of praising a deity in heaven while under total divine surveillance a "celestial North Korea".
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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?
by cofty inif you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
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cofty
Ruby - I really can't grasp your point at all. You seem to go off on tangents.
The simple point of the thread is that evolution is not necessarily in conflict with christian faith - only with a specific kind of christianity.
On this forum we constantly see posters conflating evolution with atheism. This is an error that is worth pointing out.
Ex-JWs have difficulty grasping how evolution and faith can be resolved because they have a peculiar view of the ransom that depends on a literal Adam. This is not an issue for most christians who believe Jesus' death was a vicarious punishment for their own sins not those of Adam.