Hi Rachael. Thank you for your detailed information. I assure you I was not offended but perhaps I misread your initial comment as dismissive.
Best wishes, Bill.
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
Hi Rachael. Thank you for your detailed information. I assure you I was not offended but perhaps I misread your initial comment as dismissive.
Best wishes, Bill.
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
"Lo! millions now living have yet to learn that a prophet of the Lord has been among them."
Some prophet!
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
Cofty lashed out at Vienne for pointing this out - ILTATT2
What a ridiculous characterisation of my actual comment.
Go back and read it again. I replied with some sarcasm because he/she dismissed the OP with the aloof remark "None of this is news". I did not respond to the information about the tombstone/memorial until later.
Anybody can read my actual response here and decide if I "lashed out".
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
You said that the pyramid is Russell's tomb, it is not. - TATT2
Whether it is his tombstone or a memorial to him and his colleagues adjacent to his grave - erected later by his followers - is an interesting detail but it makes little difference to the OP. My statement that Russell imitated Smyth in death is incorrect but surely nobody is suggesting the pyramid has no connection to Russell. .
I was not aware that Smyth - who compiled the data Russell used for his pyramidology - already had a pyramid grave marker at his grave in England in 1900. I thought that fact was interesting.
Edited to add - Interesting article here linking Smyth, Menzies, Russell and George Storrs...
hi everybody, hope you are all well!
i read this today and thought of the jw's and you guys.. it's an article from today's paper about isis and a recent victory over the town of dabiq.
isis have long claimed that this will be the city where good will face evil i.e islam v christianity/western powers.
Hi Snare & Racket. Great post. It's good to see the Iraqi army finally doing the job. The US spent billions training and equipping them and they ran away and left all the guns and tanks behind for ISIS.
With Dabiq retaken and if it is confirmed that al-Baghdadi is dead then there is going to be a period of disarray for ISIS. Oaths of loyalty bayah to the Caliph from the multitude of Islamist groups are not given to the organisation but to the individual leader. All of those oaths are now dissolved and up for grabs.
Can Iraq now govern itself without the sectarianism that caused the rise of ISIS?
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
Sparky1 - Thank you very much for the information about Robert Menzies.
Jaydee - My wife and I visited Nelson's Monument just in time for the start of an illustrated talk on the history of Astronomy in Edinburgh. I can't remember the name of the historian. I was more than surprised when Smyth's diagram of the measurements of the Great Pyramid appeared on the screen followed by a picture of his tombstone.
surely you must have come across this sort of info before in that 8 years ?
Come across what exactly? If I have ever heard the name Charles Piazzi Smyth before or of his connection with Edinburgh and his influence on Russell then I have no recollection of that. I did discover Russell's dishonesty about the measurements when I read his books more than 20 years ago. The OP is a combination of stuff I heard yesterday, stuff I knew already and stuff I discovered researching the OP last night.
I thought it was interesting, I'm not pretending I made discovery.
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
None of this is news
It might not be news to you vienne but I thought it was interesting when I discovered that Russell's pyramidology was based on the calculations of the Scottish Astronomer Royal when I attended a talk in Edinburgh today. Maybe somebody else also won't be aware of that and might find the OP interesting.
Perhaps in future we should consult with you before posting anything on WT history and you can decide if it is worthwhile?
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
Yes Smyth's book is still easy to get.
As far as I'm aware Smyth didn't apply his measurements to bible prophecy but he gave his approval to Russell to do so. I once saw a very old copy of Smyth's book in an exhibition in a modern art gallery.
Smyth did use his "discoveries" to campaign against the ungodly metric system!
the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
The Edinburgh City Observatory sits atop Calton Hill at the East end of the city centre adjacent to Burn's Monument, Scotland's National Monument modelled on the Parthenon, and Nelson's Monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except Sundays.
The second Astronomer Royal of Edinburgh was Charles Piazzi Smyth (Jan. 1819 - Feb. 1900). Smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of UK climate records to this day.
Building on the work of James Taylor, Smyth became fascinated by the Great Pyramid of Egypt at Giza. He travelled there to do his own measurements of its dimensions, latitude and longitude, as well as the lengths and angles of its passageways. Playing around with the numbers he noted 19 "coincidences" and became convinced that the pyramid was the work of God - and that the British system of measurements was divinely inspired. In 1864 he published a book "Our Inheritance in the Great Pyramid" which in later revisions became "The Great Pyramid: Its Secrets and Mysteries Revealed".
Smyth became the only scientist to resign from the Royal Society of London when they refused to permit him to use their platform to espouse his radical ideas.
A diagram Smyth produced for his book will be familiar to anybody who has read Charles Taze Russell's writings on the significance of the Great Pyramid in bible prophecy. According to the Pastor the Great Pyramid was nothing less than the "Bible in Stone". In "Thy Kingdom Come" Russell includes a copy of a letter from Smyth giving Russell his permission to use his diagram and measurements.
The picture below appears both in Smyth's book published in 1864 book and in Russell's in 1891.
Either by accident or design Russell actually changed one of Smyth's measurements from 3461 inches to 3416 inches when he used it to calculate the date 1874 for the "beginning of the period of trouble". When 'The End' failed to materialise Russell changed the measurement in 1910 to 3457 inches and announced a new date of 1914. Not only had Russell now corrected his transposition of earlier he also removed four inches from Smyth's measurements in order to back up his revised chronology.
Anybody who had access to Smyth's original work would have been able to see Russell's deception; deceptions which have continued unabated ever since.
The significance of Russell's pyramid-shaped tombstone has been the subject of much speculation. I think the answer is simply that it was a note of respect or homage to Charles Piazzi Smyth who died 16 years before Russell, and whose grave in St. John's Church in the village of Sharow near Ripon, England is marked by a stone pyramid.
Russell copied and misrepresented Smyth's work in life and imitated him in death.
Smyth's Tomb 1900 compared with Russell's Tomb 1916.
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he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.
Thanks for the book suggestion TD.
DwainBowan - I was an apprentice in the UK nationalised telecoms industry when I was young. Diligence was frowned on. More than half the working day was non-productive spent in cafes or long tea breaks in smoke-filled cafeterias playing cards or in the pub playing pool.
It was almost impossible to fire anybody. Absolutely no motivation or ambition and the quality of service provided for the customer - who had nowhere else to go - was dreadful.