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  What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

  are you a born again christian?

  have you joined another denomination of christianity?

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  cofty

  Didn't Portuguese police speak to psychics about Madeleine Mccann?

  Then they are dangerous idiots.
  
  
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  cofty

  I am bothered that some posters want to snipe about 'postmodernism' rather than engage on the actual arguments - Laika

  I'm not bothered in the slightest about whether or not some form of the divine name appeared in the LXX or the NT. I think it's trivial and uninteresting.

  I am bothered that SBF is waffling about these "crucial times" and "the last days".

  SBF's inability to judge the WT as a dangerous, lying, child-abusing, family-destroying, dehumanising cult is directly connected to his relativistic postmodern worldview.

  Edited to add- If you bother to read the thread you will see I did engage with the actual argument.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  cofty

  Well said galaxie.

  This is what happens when you buy into post-modern relativism. Even an evil cult cannot be judged as right or wrong. Instead you end up waffling about whether or not their "truths" are useful.

  Before you know it you are back into cult-speak about "crucial times" and "last days".
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  What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

  are you a born again christian?

  have you joined another denomination of christianity?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  cofty

  PE, the police forces of many countries consult mediums and psychics to solve crimes

  Which countries? Which century?
  
  
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  2. 
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  cofty

  Jehovah's Witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections - SBF

  When did "scholarly corrections" ever factor in JW beliefs? They have moved their end-time predictions more times than you can count because of one thing - failure.

  the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of Jehovah's name

  "Jehovah's name"! Talk about begging the question.

  the phenomenal success of this teaching

  "Penomenal"? The use of the divine name in the early church remains speculative. It was never "Jehovah" at any time. How exactly does this amount to a "phenomenal success"?

  "in the last days".

  What last days exactly? Have you taken leave of your senses?

  to champion his name at this crucial time if they did not enjoy his blessing and support?

  What "crucial time"?

  What evidence do you see of god's blessing and support?

  Is it the failed prophecies? The lies, deceit and cover-ups? The thousands of cases of child sexual abuse and their on-going refusal to accept responsibility? The tens of thousands who have died from lack of essential blood transfusions based on a facile interpretation of the bible? The constant begging for money? The closure of branches and kingdom halls? The betrayal of long-time Bethelites? The cruel breaking-up of families?

  Is this the sort of evidence of blessings you had in mind?
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  cofty

  Well I'm convinced! Get me back to the Kingdom Hall to learn more about how those old bastards in New York have championed the divine name "at this crucial time".

  Get a grip!
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  cofty

  SBF - Still want to know what you mean by "this crucial time".
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  cofty

  Please stop adding cheap insults to your posts after the conversation has moved on.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  cofty

  I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. - John 17

  If as you assert the name was in common usage in the 1st century why did Jesus have to make it known to his disciples?

  The answer of course is that, being a people for god's name, bearing witness to god's name etc etc has nothing to do with the moniker but with the character of god.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  2. 
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  cofty

  You really think the "name" of god in this context has anything to do with the moniker?