Posts by cofty

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

Noam Chomsky on Zizek's vacuous posturing...

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

Zizek seems to be saying that Jesus undermined the family to create a more egalitarian society, not that he made families more egalitarian.

Yes I got that. I wasn't trying to highlight a contradiction. Jesus did advocate the subversion of family relationships. Not just dysfunctional ones or oppressive ones or abusive ones but all family relationships to be replaced with a pseudo-family under him.

This is a tool of all tyrants.

Jesus was a dangerous narcissist. Trying to spin his words into something less offensive is a dishonest venture.

Listening to Zizek was incredibly hard work - it wasn't worth effort.

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New JW video about evolution involving children??

by Saename in

in lloyd evans's interview with seth andrews (the thinking atheist), evans says that jws published a new footage on evolution on their website jw broadcasting.

he says it's about kids talking to their classmates about evolution.

he comments that it's an amusing video.

cofty

I remember when I used to preach about creationism at school. "If we evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys?" Cringe!

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

Zizek is saying that the subversion of family structure opens the way for egalitarian and non-hierarchical forms of relationship - SBF

I don't think Zizek said anything about a more egalitarian family structure - SBF

So he thinks that subverting the family structure is the road to a better world does he? Why do you think a person who thinks this way is worthy of attention?

The subversion of family structure is evil. It is a tool of every oppressive society that has ever existed including the Watchtower. If, as you assert, Zizek is saying that the subversion of the family is desirable then he is a dangerous fool.

I listened to the first video. It was agony.

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

Except Jesus said nothing about a more egalitarian family structure. He said his followers were unworthy unless they hated their parents and siblings.

This of course is deeply embarrasing so theologians like Zizek make up bullshit influenced by communist ideology.

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

I think Zizek is saying that the subversion of family structure opens the way for egalitarian and non-hierarchical forms of relationship

Mao Zedong thought likewise. That led to the deaths of 45 million during the "Great Leap Forward". Anybody who advocates the "subversion of the family structure" is either a moral imbecile or a moral monster.

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God expresses his perplexity at his own creation

by slimboyfat in

just got to share this, zizek at his very best.

explaining how the traditional view of the ransom makes no sense and reverts christianity to paganism where god is subject to a superior notion of justice.

how the injunction from jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society, of which the holy spirit is a symbol.

cofty

the injunction from Jesus to hate mother, father, brothers and sisters is really a call for a non-hierarchical society

What has hating your brothers and sisters got to do with rejecting hierarchy? Sibling relationships are the exact opposite of that. Zizek is talking bullshit.

Jesus' words are much more simple than that. He meant what he said - reject your fucking family and follow me.

Jesus was a egocentric cult leader who demanded the same loyalty as every cult leader before and since. The rejection of the family - our most intimate relationships - in favour of the cult is the ultimate test.

If he existed at all, Jesus was both deluded and dangerous.

The NT is very explicit about the reason for Jesus' death. It is ugly and pagan and it does leave god looking like a narcissist. Conflating Job with the meaning of the cross is nonsense.

P.S. What is wrong with Zizek?

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North Korea threatening to bomb Guam...

by mikeflood in

crazy kim again....could happen?

thoughts?.

cofty

they're latest bomb test inside NK was inside NK. People do what they like inside their their houses. - Fish

That is not true. Underground nuclear testing is against international law. When a country break it there are consequences. China is shielding NK for reasons of self-interest.

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