When I left 20+ years ago he wasn't an elder. Didn't look like ever being one at that point either.
Posts by cofty
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49The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?
by JWB inthe rise and rise of paul gillies?.
here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .
2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.
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The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?
by JWB inthe rise and rise of paul gillies?.
here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .
2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.
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cofty
His brother was a bit of a cunt
I got on quite well with Gordon but your experience must have been different. When I was having doubts I had a long chat with Gordon and he was cool about it.
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Why 2017 Was the Best Year in Human History
by pseudoxristos ini found the following article to be a nice contrast to the jw's gloomy point of view.. why 2017 was the best year in human history.
we all know that the world is going to hell.
given the rising risk of nuclear war with north korea, the paralysis in congress, warfare in yemen and syria, atrocities in myanmar and a president who may be going cuckoo, you might think 2017 was the worst year ever.. but you’d be wrong.
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cofty
Did you just have a brain-fart SBF?
Good OP. Pinker's 'The Better Angels of our Nature' should be compulsory reading for every ex-JW.
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Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution
by dubstepped inso i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
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cofty
SBF does the internet from the west of Scotland detour via Pluto?
If you post now we can expect your answer by the weekend!
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
Darwin's frequent bouts of illness seems at least in part, to have been triggered by stress over the implications of his ideas. He was no bold critic of belief in the way Huxley was.
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
Brilliant! Thank you TD.
I have been reading 17th and 18th century documents recently as part of local history research. It takes a while to get your eye in.
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
Yes Earnest I am certain you are correct about Emma. It was not until Alfred Russel Wallace sent him a letter in which he laid out almost identical ideas about Natural Selection that Darwin decided to publish his proposed work in parts beginning with Origins.
Emma was a conventional English Christian with no interest at all in science. She bore ten children because Darwin refused to use contraception, thinking it his duty to produce as many middle-class Englishmen as possible!
The quote is interesting. Of course the advancement in science in the last 150 years has confirmed the truth of Darwin's central tenet so thoroughly that it would be obtuse to reject it as a fact. If we make concise predictions and then observe the accuracy of those in multiple independent ways then we can have a very high degree of confidence in our convictions. If the truth of evolution depended on abstract thought alone then of course it would be a concern.
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
Venus - It's always worth doing a little research into context before you 'quote-mine'.
“Laws impressed on matter by the Creator”? - The Origin and the Question of Religion" by John Hedley Brooke.
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
Even Darwin wrote that “we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator.” - Venus
What do you mean by 'even Darwin'?
Darwin's theological opinions are of no consequence whatsoever. His loss of faith was gradual. He even studied at Cambridge to be a minister of religion as a younger man. His final rejection of belief in god followed the death of his favourite daughter Annie. I have visited her grave - something Darwin could not bring himself to do.
How many times do I have to repeat that evolution is accepted by all rational christians. It is a fallacy to conflate the scientific fact of biological evolution with the philosophical position of atheism.
Nobody cares how many learned men you can find who believed in god.
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How to Argue for Creationism
by cofty inall creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
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cofty
no one would have thought about an alternative explanation such as Evolution - venus
Evolution is not an alternative to belief in god. . The majority of intelligent christians accept the scientific fact that all living things including humans descended from a common ancestor by evolution over millions of years.
It is only a small percentage of fundies who deny the evidence. Invariably they have never bothered to study the facts.