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  New JW.org Logo

  by Not_Culty in

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  cofty

  Excellent!
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

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  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  Scruffy - Evolution is the most fascinating topic you could commit to learn about. It is the foundation of everything we know about life on earth.

  Check out the links and let me know if you have questions.
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

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  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  Hi Scruffy.

  1 - We didn't evolve from monkeys. That is not evolution

  2 - Every living thing from humans to oak trees to bacteria evolved from a common ancestor by unguided evolution over million of years.

  3 - There was no 'explosion'. The Big Bang was a rapid expansion of the universe. It has nothing to do with biological evolution.

  4 - The origin of life is the subject of the scientific field of abiogenesis. The most promising ideas at the moment focus on bioenergetics. Life may have arisen in deep-sea Alkaline vents.

  5 - The 'theory' of evolution is proven beyond all reasonable doubt. A theory in science does NOT mean the same thing as a hypothesis. Theories are the ultimate standard in science. They explain a whole collection of facts and observations.

  6 - Opinions are worthless. The fact of evolution is about evidence.

  You would benefit from reading some science textbooks on the basics of evolution.

  Here are some threads that present some of the evidence...
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

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  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  But evolution seems silly to me too - scruff

  Why?
  
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  cofty

  [earth] was made perfect and exact purposely for humans

  I would have challenged him on that. Got to go. Will add details later.
  
  
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  I believe that the discovery of life on other planets would be a real issue for JWs although they would publicly accommodate it.

  I'm sure 'simple' prokaryotic life has evolved many times in the universe. Complex, multicellular, eukaryotic life (everything we can see with our eyes) might be very rare or even unique to earth. The circumstances that made it possible are astonishingly unlikely. But then the universe is a big place.
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  Is the blood doctrine idolatrous?

  by Fred Franztone in

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  i'm not a god-fearing individual, but when i was still a believer, many suns ago, it occurred to me that the blood doctrine had an idolatrous foundation; it was one of the initial anti-wt thoughts in my mind that eventually led to me leaving the religion and ultimately (and somewhat ironically) to atheism.. the bible says that one should 'abstain from blood', and putting aside whether this is a mistranslation of bloodshed (which i've never bought), the wt are quite picky about which commandments they follow; they don't observe the sabbath, and they've even provided justifications for lying, so why the preoccupation with the blood commandment?

  and why is it so serious a matter that it's a disfellowship-worthy offence?

  the justification i was always given by elders was that blood is sacred, it's a symbol of life, and whilst the commandment to abstain from blood clearly meant that one shouldn't eat it, it's not unreasonable on the surface to extrapolate it to include transfusions (although some would disagree).. the problem with this reasoning of course is that by abstaining from blood transfusions, death from massive blood-loss is a possibility, unlike with abstaining from eating it.

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  jesus said it was ok to heal a man on the sabbath, breaking a direct law from god about “ working” on that day. - Morph

  Jesus was meticulous about keeping the Law and taught his disciples that they must do likewise. He disagreed with the Pharisees on the interpretation of the Law.

  The law on blood was more than a dietary restriction it was about respect for life. Since no life is surrendered in the donation of blood then transfusions do not contravene the law.
  
  
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  Their Last Message of Damnation

  by new boy in

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  the leaders of the witnesses are preparing their flock for the day when they will have to give that last message of damnation.

  they will soon be announcing how their loving god jehovah will soon becoming to kill off the vast majority of mankind.

  billions of men women and children,.

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  The leaders of the Witnesses are preparing their flock for the day when they will have to give that last message of Damnation

  Are there any recent signs of that move?

  They will have to do that sooner or later but how long can they get away with it?
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  Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

  by JW Answers in

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  salvation : "heaven, hell and the afterlife.

  "the jehovah's witnesses believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven, they dismiss the concept of a literal hell, and do not believe in the afterlife.

  in this new video, i explain from the scriptures who go to heaven, who go to hell and is the afterlife proven in the bible?

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  Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  salvation : "heaven, hell and the afterlife.

  "the jehovah's witnesses believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven, they dismiss the concept of a literal hell, and do not believe in the afterlife.

  in this new video, i explain from the scriptures who go to heaven, who go to hell and is the afterlife proven in the bible?

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  cofty