hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
but it no the fossil record shows no evolutionary changes at all .. ancient fossils are no change from same creatures today
That is literally like claiming there is no evidence the earth revolves around the sun.
By the way we have an embarrassment of riches in the fossil record demonstrating evolution including humans.
Even if we had no fossils the most compelling evidence is in the DNA on every one of your trillions of cells.
It's very exciting.
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
It is very easy to prove the fact of evolution through numerous fields of science including paleontology and genetics without getting overly complex.
You have read zero books on the topic so how do you think you qualify to reach any conclusion?
Seriously would you like to talk about it on a new thread? I am very happy to help you explore something that all JWs are woefully ignorant of.
i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.
but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.
that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.
There is no such thing as an 'evolutionist' there are just well informed people who accept the simple fact of biological evolution.
Just because there is no all-powerful God does not mean life has no purpose.
As I said the bible does NOT say that the reason for suffering is universal sovereignty. Did you not read KOW's post?
The bible is a library of books. Different writers offer different theodicies. The oldest one simply rejects the question. See Job.
You need to engage with your interlocutors better.
i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.
but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.
that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.
Excellent post KalebOutWest
The bible doesn't offer an answer to the question of suffering - it offers many and all of them are inadequate.
The oldest one goes something like - I'm god and you have no right to question me.
See Job.
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
ExB - serious question. What books are you basing your knowledge of biological evolution on?
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
Intelligent Design is creationism in a cheap suit.
SBF won't even affirm that the earth is not flat. Anything can be 'true' in his universe.
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
That's not a gotcha question.
I seriously would commit the time and effort to help you study the subject.
You sound so sure you can prove evolution
Yes
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
Can you tell me specifically which scientific books on the topic of biological evolution you have read please?
I have asked numerous people this question on the forum and curiously I have never received an answer.
hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
if evolution was true I think it would have been proven by now
It has been. Thoroughly and totally proven beyond all sensible doubt. Every living thing descended from a common ancestor over millions of years. This is as certain as the fact that the earth is not flat.
Would you like me to suggest a reading list? It's clear from your comments above - missing links and monkeys- that you have never read a science book on this topic ever. Neither had I until after I left the cult
many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?
truthfully..
I have no faith in evolution.
Evolution - all living things descended from a common ancestor - is just a fact.
No faith is necessary or desirable.
