With the legal problems the WT are experiencing why would anybody want to be an elder anymore? It is also becoming clear that the organisation is happy to throw elders under the bus when problems become public.
Posts by cofty
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Another congregation bites the dust
by NikL inwent to the meeting last night with my believing wife.
the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.
basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.
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Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?
by Gokumonkey inhey everyone.
i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.
while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.
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Hee Haw was not clean
by The Real Edward Gentry inso, my son bought me a device that allows me to look up and watch anything i want.
i remember years ago , i enjoyed the television show hee haw on sunday evenings.
i naively thought it was wholesome family entertainment.
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cofty
Nobody can be that much of a sanctimonious buffoon.
I am going to pay you the respect of assuming you are a troll. Just not a very witty one.
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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cofty
the roots of experience in an (apparently) material world are deeply mysterious
The honest response is not to insert any old unprovable and untestable woo-woo to fill the gap: it is simply admit "we don't know yet".
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Does "Hanlon's Razor" apply to the Governing Body?
by stuckinarut2 ini recently learned of the term "hanlon's razor".. wikipedia defines it as: .
hanlon's razor is an aphorism expressed in various ways including "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
" it recommends a way of eliminating unlikely explanations for a phenomenon (a philosophical razor).. so could it be said that this applies to the gb / society ?.
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cofty
I strongly agree. When they speak of "The Faithful and Discreet Slave" in the third person I don't think they are being entirely disingenuous. All of them think that somebody else is in control and the reality is that none of them have the balls or the intelligence to assume responsibility for the craziness they have inherited.
Having said that, I do believe they knowingly resort to malicious lying and deception in order to protect the organisation.
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So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today
by pale.emperor inwe all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
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cofty
Really well done. It's important for the therapists to understand the pressure he is being put under.
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So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today
by pale.emperor inwe all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
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cofty
So sorry to hear about this pale.emperor. It's really encouraging to know that your brother reached out to you when he was in despair. It probably sounds scary to be sectioned but right now it's possibly the best thing that could happen. He can talk to his psychiatrist and nurses in complete confidence and he will be able to control who is allowed to visit.
All you can do is what you have done today and be there for him. It's times like this that the WT is exposed for the despicable controlling cult that it is.
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Bible is good if we look for implied truth
by venus inthumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
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cofty
Allow Sir Billy to explain - Giles Grey
Love that guy.
Here's Mrs C, at a mural of The Big Yin in Glasgow earlier this year.
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Stop harassing jws
by pomo6780 inwe want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
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cofty
Morpheus - You are falling for the false dichotomy of the OP.
Yelling at old ladies or walking past JWs at the carts is not the only two options.
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Stop harassing jws
by pomo6780 inwe want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
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cofty
Confrontation. This may be you approaching a jw at a cart
I agree about not assaulting JWs but I find approaching JWs at carts to be very effective. I have had lots & lots of conversations with JWs at carts and I am certain I had a positive effect on at least a few. Keep it lighthearted, tease them with humour but there is no need to be nasty. Have a really good grasp of your topic and be concise. I had a great talk to a couple of JWs about evolution a few days ago in Edinburgh. The elder was being an arse but the younger lad was listening intently and asking genuine questions.
Occasionally if I meet an especially patronising elder I will - calmly and quietly - let them have a full-on verbal assault. Winning them over doesn't always have to be our priority. Sometimes it's good to just vent.
just walk past them. Ignore them
A million times NO!
Everybody walks past them and ignores them. You and I have the knowledge and skills to challenge them. Stop being so passive.