Please describe the trinity succinctly in your own words, avoid esoteric language, without self-contradiction or heresy.
Posts by cofty
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
I understood what you wrote but you still haven't attempted to address the question.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Which is to ignore my questions - as usual
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Interesting new findings on evolution...
by Bad_Wolf ini link the article below.
in summary it claims that analyzing dna code from over 100,000 species found that 90%of all species including humans came about at the same time 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, and another "and yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between.".
read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html#jcphttps://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html.
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cofty
What happened 100 to 200,000 years ago?
Selection pressure caused by environmental changes. Evolution never stops. Many of today's species are sufficiently different from their ancestors to be designated as new species within the last 100,000 - 200,000 years. That's all.
I wonder if the "species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between" is a finding that still supports as you said species being the tips of branches or not
Yes that's exactly what it means.
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Interesting new findings on evolution...
by Bad_Wolf ini link the article below.
in summary it claims that analyzing dna code from over 100,000 species found that 90%of all species including humans came about at the same time 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, and another "and yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between.".
read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html#jcphttps://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html.
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cofty
It's an interesting finding. I think I remember discussing it with a creationist on the forum a few months ago who thought he saw support for his superstitions. It was probably Perry. There is a lot of scope for misunderstanding this paper.
It doesn't call into question the fact that extant species diverged from common ancestors over millions of years. It does appear to show that there has been a genetic 'sweep' within the past 100,000 - 200,000 years.
Extant species can be thought of as being like the tips of branches on a bush. They all budded within a relatively short time but their origins go very deep.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
So the challenge still stands.
Please describe the trinity succinctly in your own words, avoid esoteric language, without self-contradiction or heresy.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
So he is fully human but he doesn't eat, drink, breathe, perspire, see, hear, smell, feel or defecate. But he is still FULLY human and FULLY God but also in subjection to his God and Father.
How dare any xtian criticise the foolishness of Watchtower doctrines!
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
What “logical contradiction”? - Hooby
That Jesus is fully God and yet also fully human and as such he is in submission to his God and yet he too is unequivocally God Almighty and above all things (apart from his God).
That contradiction.
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Two Gods seen in the Bible
by Ireneus ina careful reader of the bible can see depiction of two gods in the bible—one that of a loving father figure, and the other an impulsive sort of who has been copied thoughtlessly from other cultures.. 1) god of love (as seen in genesis chapter 1) who creates humans (men and woman simultaneously) “in his image” (which means he gave the best he can to his children, the potential to become like him) as a crown of creation with a command to take care of all species, and goes into silence unconcerned of mankind’s response [gratitude or worship] to him, yet with a presupposition to “renew” in case humans deplete/destroy the resources (mathew 19:28; revelation 21:1-5).
thus god’s action defines him as “the servant of humanity.” (luke 22:26, 27) this is in contrast to the second god (as seen in genesis chapter 2 and 3 and throughout other books) who makes the planning for suffering and death for humans in co-operation with his adversary.. 2) god of impartiality (deut 10:17; mathew 5:44-48) who asks us to love/greet everyone.
this is in contrast to the second god who commands his worshippers not even to greet those who do not share their beliefs.
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cofty
Even among physicists, one group believe universe is expanding,
No every physicist knows that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate. Stop making things up.
Atheists can see enough proof for their belief and theists can also see enough proof for their belief.
An atheist is somebody who is unconvinced by the grandiose claims of theists. No proof is required.