Posts by cofty

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Creation, evolution, ???

by Freedom rocks in

was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

cofty

[earth] was made perfect and exact purposely for humans

I would have challenged him on that. Got to go. Will add details later.

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Creation, evolution, ???

by Freedom rocks in

was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

cofty

I believe that the discovery of life on other planets would be a real issue for JWs although they would publicly accommodate it.

I'm sure 'simple' prokaryotic life has evolved many times in the universe. Complex, multicellular, eukaryotic life (everything we can see with our eyes) might be very rare or even unique to earth. The circumstances that made it possible are astonishingly unlikely. But then the universe is a big place.

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Is the blood doctrine idolatrous?

by Fred Franztone in

i'm not a god-fearing individual, but when i was still a believer, many suns ago, it occurred to me that the blood doctrine had an idolatrous foundation; it was one of the initial anti-wt thoughts in my mind that eventually led to me leaving the religion and ultimately (and somewhat ironically) to atheism.. the bible says that one should 'abstain from blood', and putting aside whether this is a mistranslation of bloodshed (which i've never bought), the wt are quite picky about which commandments they follow; they don't observe the sabbath, and they've even provided justifications for lying, so why the preoccupation with the blood commandment?

and why is it so serious a matter that it's a disfellowship-worthy offence?

the justification i was always given by elders was that blood is sacred, it's a symbol of life, and whilst the commandment to abstain from blood clearly meant that one shouldn't eat it, it's not unreasonable on the surface to extrapolate it to include transfusions (although some would disagree).. the problem with this reasoning of course is that by abstaining from blood transfusions, death from massive blood-loss is a possibility, unlike with abstaining from eating it.

cofty

jesus said it was ok to heal a man on the sabbath, breaking a direct law from god about “ working” on that day. - Morph

Jesus was meticulous about keeping the Law and taught his disciples that they must do likewise. He disagreed with the Pharisees on the interpretation of the Law.

The law on blood was more than a dietary restriction it was about respect for life. Since no life is surrendered in the donation of blood then transfusions do not contravene the law.

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Their Last Message of Damnation

by new boy in

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friends

the leaders of the witnesses are preparing their flock for the day when they will have to give that last message of damnation.

they will soon be announcing how their loving god jehovah will soon becoming to kill off the vast majority of mankind.

billions of men women and children,.

cofty

The leaders of the Witnesses are preparing their flock for the day when they will have to give that last message of Damnation

Are there any recent signs of that move?

They will have to do that sooner or later but how long can they get away with it?

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Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

by JW Answers in

salvation : "heaven, hell and the afterlife.

"the jehovah's witnesses believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven, they dismiss the concept of a literal hell, and do not believe in the afterlife.

in this new video, i explain from the scriptures who go to heaven, who go to hell and is the afterlife proven in the bible?

cofty

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Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

by JW Answers in

salvation : "heaven, hell and the afterlife.

"the jehovah's witnesses believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven, they dismiss the concept of a literal hell, and do not believe in the afterlife.

in this new video, i explain from the scriptures who go to heaven, who go to hell and is the afterlife proven in the bible?

cofty

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Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

by JW Answers in

salvation : "heaven, hell and the afterlife.

"the jehovah's witnesses believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven, they dismiss the concept of a literal hell, and do not believe in the afterlife.

in this new video, i explain from the scriptures who go to heaven, who go to hell and is the afterlife proven in the bible?

cofty

Anybody who promotes belief in a literal Hell is a sociopath.

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The Children Act - Emma Thompson - advertised on ITV One - prime time.

by freddo in

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friends

as you probably know "the children act" is a film starring emma thompson as a high court judge deciding whether or not to transfuse a teen jw.

it is due to be on general release in the uk on august 24th 2018. september 14th usa.. its shortened trailer is being advertised in the uk on the biggest independent tv channel - namely itv - at prime time.

just seen it in advertisment breaks between 6pm and 7pm uk time.. thought you might like to know..

cofty

Interview with Emma Thompson and Fionn Whitehead...

"I went to a Jehovah's Witnesses meeting and just pretended like I got a leaflet through the door, I was sure I was going to be caught out the whole time. I was sitting there, gripped with terror."

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

cofty

Hooby - I have nothing to substantiate.

I have made a claim that it is not possible to describe the trinity without contradiction, heresy or obscurantism.

It should take very little effort to prove me wrong.

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

cofty

But you both seem to be enjoying yourselves - Exelder

There is nothing enjoyable about bumping heads with intellectually dishonest people.

I’m not obligated to spend my life responding to whatever you demand, or whatever arguments you assert - Hooby

Your inability to simply state the cornerstone of your faith is duly noted Hooby. You are just one more in a long list of such failures.