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they are all in fact very, very similar
I read Jenna Miscavige's story a while ago. So similar in lots of ways.
i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.
i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.
last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.
Thanks for the update. Good to hear it went well. Please tell us about your presentation when you get time.
they are all in fact very, very similar
I read Jenna Miscavige's story a while ago. So similar in lots of ways.
bible is flooded with blood.
god is depicted as spilling blood for no reason.
to mention a few:.
the same nature is capable of returning what each human being deserves - Irene
You are committing a fallacy be reifying nature.
The universe does not care.
Your superstitious beliefs about a loving creator is contradicted by natural evil. All your hand-waving does not even begin to answer this.
All your work is still ahead of you.
bible is flooded with blood.
god is depicted as spilling blood for no reason.
to mention a few:.
Now you are just making it worse. The more you talk the more ridiculous your superstitions become.
bible is flooded with blood.
god is depicted as spilling blood for no reason.
to mention a few:.
Ireaneus your ignorance of the natural world is astounding.
bible is flooded with blood.
god is depicted as spilling blood for no reason.
to mention a few:.
God who made abundant variety of provisions for life’s enjoyment proving himself to be symbol of unconditional love.
Natural evil proves otherwise.
story in the guardian: .
"--freedom of expression, as guaranteed by article 10 of the european convention on human rights, includes the right “not to express an opinion which one does not hold”, hale added.
“this court has held that nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe,” she said.--".
the argument as presented in Court was weakened by claiming that the baker him/herself was making a personal expression on the cake, he/she was not - Phizzy
If that argument was made in the original case than I agree, it is a weak point. The lawyer got that badly wrong. The ruling of the Supreme Court did not base their verdict on that.
can we rely solely on christ and his sacrifice for our sins to be forgiven, or do we have to attribute our own works upon his finished work?
this video gives an explanation of the sacrifices made for israel under the law and what it meant at that time, and the sacrifice which christ made for ourselves under the age of grace today.
According to Paul, there is only one gospel for all of mankind...and that gospel is Christ's gospel - Vander
We can agree that Paul claimed to be preaching the same gospel as Jesus, but that doesn't make it so. Compare the words of Jesus with the letter to the Romans.
Just like you hate to hear about God and would want to live in a place where nobody will talk about God - Brazil
If I hate talking about god why am I talking about god? I enjoy talking about god and the reasons why people believe in him.
can we rely solely on christ and his sacrifice for our sins to be forgiven, or do we have to attribute our own works upon his finished work?
this video gives an explanation of the sacrifices made for israel under the law and what it meant at that time, and the sacrifice which christ made for ourselves under the age of grace today.
Hell is closed from inside
What sort of sophistry is this?
Why do xtians talk in riddles and platitudes?
can we rely solely on christ and his sacrifice for our sins to be forgiven, or do we have to attribute our own works upon his finished work?
this video gives an explanation of the sacrifices made for israel under the law and what it meant at that time, and the sacrifice which christ made for ourselves under the age of grace today.
TGND - I agree.
It is often wrongly said on this forum that Jesus rejected the Law, or broke it at will, in the interests of a greater good. Nothing could be further from the facts. Jesus told his disciples to keep the Law — not ONLY the letter of the Law but also the spirit of the Law.
Paul taught that humans were intrinsically evil and their only hope was forgiveness through faith in Jesus' sacrificial death. Calvin's 'TULIP' (to be more accurate Calvin's disciples' TULIP) is a fair summary of Paul's gospel. It is far from the teachings of the Jesus of the gospels.
can we rely solely on christ and his sacrifice for our sins to be forgiven, or do we have to attribute our own works upon his finished work?
this video gives an explanation of the sacrifices made for israel under the law and what it meant at that time, and the sacrifice which christ made for ourselves under the age of grace today.
That is certainly Calvin's gospel, but not Christ's.
It was Paul's gospel was it not?