Posts by cofty

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

cofty

no one is claiming that Jesus raised himself from the dead - Ratty

Yes they are. You should go back and read the thread.

Should they go unchallenged? - Half banana

As you know I frequently challenge theism. Have any posters been more active in doing so?

I just think that if a topic is starting from an assumption of the basics of xtian faith and wanting to discuss a particular doctrine from scripture they should be allowed to do that. We are in danger of creating a political and anti-religious monoculture on the forum.

Why would anybody bother talking in an echo chamber?

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Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris

by corruptgirl in

jw
friends

i never post on here.

i am sanchy's wife.

i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.

cofty

Corruptgirl - a search of WT index for Luke 12:48 might throw up some more interesting references about the need for elders to be held to a higher standard.

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Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris

by corruptgirl in

jw
friends

i never post on here.

i am sanchy's wife.

i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.

cofty

Stan - How do you think it could be done if it is a hoax? An actor that looks and sounds exactly right? If anybody was going to those lengths surely the dialogue would be far more damning.

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Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris

by corruptgirl in

jw
friends

i never post on here.

i am sanchy's wife.

i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.

cofty

Excellent summary of the principles. Thank you.

Can I add one more?

'Everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.' - Luke 12:48

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

cofty

Ratt - Who do you mean by 'Jehovah God' exactly?

How can it be simple when it is being claimed that Jesus raised himself from the dead?

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

cofty

Half Banana - I think you have missed my point. I agree that there is absolutely no evidence that god exists. It is a topic we regularly debate.

Sometimes people post threads with the intention of debating whether or not Watchtower doctrine is consistent with the bible that they profess to follow. That is a legitimate thing to do. Replying that god isn't real is true but not helpful.

Snakeface - I think debate about religious topics on a religious discussion forum is entirely valid. I will continue to discredit theism. It doesn't mean I need everybody to agree with me it just means that I think big questions are worth debating. Some people avoid those types of threads. That is fine too.

Those of you who feel you have to post to discredit other's beliefs actually still have the cult mindset

Actually it is those who refuse to engage in debate and hold their most cherished beliefs up to scrutiny that are more of a cause for concern. Telling ex-JWs that they still have a cult mindset is a cheap shot.

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

cofty

I think it is not unreasonable for xtians to discuss a theological topic based on the presumption that God exists.

If I started a thread on a scientific debate within the broader field of evolution it would be tedious to have to put up with superstitious people interjecting with creationism.

I agree with Tenacious.

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Who is The Lord?

by JW Answers in

the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

cofty

Well it has only taken 7 pages, countless requests and endless insults and personal attacks but at last you have made an attempt at answering my question. Thank you.

I have edited down the key paragraph to make it easier to identify the three parts of the trinity. If you think my editing has misrepresented your views in any way please let me know.

God, the Father is an awesome being ... His words are alive. His word is Jesus ... Jesus has all of the authority of God the Father. He is like the hand of God ... He loves his word with so much love that his LOVE is alive ... To me, his love is the Holy spirit. Not an active force, but true to the scriptures, showing all the attributes of a coherent being. - TPWSYF

I am really struggling to see how your description gets us even close to the christian trinity but I'm going to have another read at it over the weekend and then get back to you with a thoughtful reply.

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Who is The Lord?

by JW Answers in

the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

cofty

TPWSYF - You have lied repeatedly that you have already answered my challenge. I invited you to simply provide a link to the post where you did so. I promised that if you did that then I would apologise. I predicted you would refuse to backup your lies with a link.

I was correct.

So my challenge still stands. Please explain the trinity simply in your own words, without self-contradiction or resorting to esoteric theological terms.

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Who is The Lord?

by JW Answers in

the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

cofty

If you could stop frothing at the mouth for a minute perhaps you could link to the exact place where my challenge has been answered by you or anyone else.

I am willing to apologise if you can do that. I'm equally certain you can't.

You seem to be suggesting that the trinity is not in the bible but the Catholic church have a special line to God which trumps scripture. Shall we chat about the nest of pedophiles that is otherwise known as the Roman Catholic clergy sometime?

The belief that God is greater than all other things changes nothing. You still don't get to talk in riddles and pretend you are being profound.

My challenge still stands. Explain the trinity simply in your own words without self-contradiction or resorting to esoteric theological terms.