the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!
and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.
yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.
It will be very interesting to see the next opinion poll for independence
YouGov poll just out a few days ago = 44%
Once the UK leaves the EU at the end of next month an independent Scotland would be stranded outside the EU with a huge deficit and no chance of getting back into Europe without agonising austerity measures to balance the economy.
It will be interesting to see if Big Eck's criminal trial for multiple charges of rape will taint the image of the SNP
the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!
and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.
yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.
^^ This ^^
Also there were plenty people who voted SNP who do not want to break up the Union.
"brussels plans to insist that in order to get that "quick and dirty" deal, the prime minister would have to sign up to eu conditions: alignment with eu environmental, state aid and tax regulations for example.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50777995.
would such a deal represent what they thought they were voting for in the referendum?.
Further to LUHE's excellent guide to the EU they are intent on ' ever greater union' leading inexorable to a United States of Europe.
They want to dissolve all nation states and replace with a central government dictating all laws, finance and foreign policy of member states.
The elite who make all the decisions in the EU are unelected and totally unaccountable. The EU parliament is a powerless talking shop.
All of this is being pursued without any consultation with the citizens of the member states.
It doesn't take a genius to see that it will all end in a dystopian nightmare.
hello forum.
my aunt, flyinghighnow, has passed away.
i don't know if you remember her, but she was a long time member.
That is very sad. My condolences to your family. Thanks for letting us know.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
Debating a creationist is like accepting the following challenge.
First your interlocutor gets ten minutes to smash up your house with a baseball bat. Then you get ten minutes to put everything back as it was before. If you fail they claim victory.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
1 - Getting Something from Nothing.
So how on earth did you make the leap from biological evolution to denying the Big Bang?
All the evidence proves common ancestry is a fact. A whole other field of science proves the Big Bang really happened 13.8 billion years ago - you can still detect it for goodness sake! But these are two very different subjects. Do you just hate science in general?
2 - Getting Life from Non-Life.
The transition from geochemistry to biochemistry is a field of science known as abiogenesis. Evolution deals with the subsequent branching of species.
Life almost certainly originated in deep sea alkaline vents. The key to life is energy. In the words of Nobel Prize winner Albert Szent-Györgyi “Life is nothing but an electron looking for a place to rest”
For a fascinating explanation of the latest developments in this field see Nick Lane's Life Ascending
3 - Getting Order from Chaos.
According to the laws of thermodynamics entropy does tend towards maximum. However local decreases in entropy are everywhere. Pull the plug out of the bathtub and watch the vortex form out of a chaotic and unguided flow of water. Physicists like Jeremy England are studying how life actually speeds up entropy by consuming energy making life as likely as a rock rolling down a hill.
4 - Getting the Immaterial from Physical Matter.
Morality is easy, the problem of consciousness on the other hand is a puzzle. There is a whole spectrum of conscious experience in the animal kingdom with the human mind at the apex. We know it is a product of our brains, that much is obvious, but what is the specific development that sets us apart? There are some really interesting proposed solutions that I have looked at but I have to admit it isn't my area of interest.
However it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact of biological evolution.
5 - Complex Information generation
This is a common fallacy. DNA is a sequence of chemical bases that catalyse amino acids that fold together to form proteins. 'Information' is a metaphor. If there is a god who wanted to put information in DNA why didn't he put any information in DNA?
Our genomes are an absolute mess. If anything proves there was no intelligent designer it is our genome.
Anyway this topic is paleontology.
Now you can go ahead and copy-paste some more nonsense from another creationist website that you don't understand.
i feel that assad even though he is bad is a better alternative then islamic extremist taking power.
what do you think?.
Assad is a monster on par with the greatest tyrants of modern history.
The OP presents a false dichotomy
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
The creationists own the fossil record. The Cambrian explosion of life showing fully formed animals is opposite of what Darwinism predicts - See Breeze
The fossil record contains an embarrassment of riches proving common ancestry beyond all doubt. Of particular interest is the many hominid fossils showing the ancestry of modern humans.
The Cambrian 'explosion' is an interesting period in the history of life. We now know that it lasted about 25 million years - that's quite a slow explosion. There is a fantastic series of articles at the Biologos website that answers all the questions a creationist might have in connection with this so-called challenge to evolution.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
However, It is quite common to get "fossils" containing original organic material...like this "160 million" year old squid ink. They even used some of it to write with a pen - Sea Breeze
Please read the article you linked to. Nobody used 160 million year old squid ink to write anything. Researchers used a combination of very sophisticated techniques to determine if melanin was present.
Other soft tissue discoveries in fossils have been similarly challenging to confirm using very high resolution microscopes to identify collagen and red blood cells. The idea put about by creationists that rotting flesh and oozing blood was found inside fossils is risible.
You can read a very detailed explanation written by an evangelical christian at the Letters to Creationists blog.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
Sea Breeze - so many fallacies in one post!
Got to rush now but will get back to you in detail this evening (UK)
