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  the FULL EPISODE 'The Witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 US Oxygen

  by NRKoppe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the full episode 'the witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 us oxygen(viewable from 🧶 outside of the us!

  )https://www.facebook.com/jws4justice/videos/543483709706749/

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  cofty

  So did this go out nationally in the USA?
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  the FULL EPISODE 'The Witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 US Oxygen

  by NRKoppe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the full episode 'the witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 us oxygen(viewable from 🧶 outside of the us!

  )https://www.facebook.com/jws4justice/videos/543483709706749/

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  Just finished watching it. Really excellent expose. Has part 2 been aired in the US yet and will it be available online? Thanks
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  the FULL EPISODE 'The Witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 US Oxygen

  by NRKoppe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the full episode 'the witnesses,' from 🇺🇸 us oxygen(viewable from 🧶 outside of the us!

  )https://www.facebook.com/jws4justice/videos/543483709706749/

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  cofty

  Thank you
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  Me - 'Since you have contempt for democracy, how do we get to this state that you call 'how things ought to be', and what would that state look like?'

  Terry - 'Wrong. I have contempt for CORRUPTION of Democracy ... I think you are disingenuously misreading because I've been excruciatingly clear.'

  <sarcasm>Well I can't imagine where that misunderstanding came from</sarcasm>

  • As far as secular politics and democratic elections, I don't see them as "real" but only a sop to masses
  • DEMOCRACY: Two wolves and a sheep voting on 'what's for lunch'
  • THE VERY BEST THING a Western Democracy can hope for is a slow rot into corruption by the Oligarchy.
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  cofty

  Brexit is not bizarre or 'flailing'. It was a rational decision to leave a misguided supranational political project. It was massively supported by the working class. The middle class largely voted remain. The political establishment was defeated by the masses, not just by the vote but by three years of the elite trying, and failing, to reverse the popular vote.

  Liberal democracy 1 - 0 Political Elite

  But what about my question. Since you have contempt for democracy, how do we get to this state that you call 'how things ought to be', and what would that state look like?
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  You are calling for the role of RELIGION which is to create an alternative to reality itself.

  No I'm not calling for anything. I think liberal democracy is as good as it gets or ever will be.

  I have still not got the first clue what your answer is Terry.

  I think you could condense this entire thread into three words - 'democracy is imperfect'.

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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  I'm still hoping that you might begin to even hint at an alternative Terry.
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  JWs In The UK: Jehovah's Witnesses sued over 'historical sex abuse

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51006771.

  according to my older brother, my mother now refuses to watch the news in case they mention this story.

  funny, when the news exposed the catholic church she turned the volume up.. at least 20 former jehovah's witnesses are suing the group over historical sexual abuse they say they suffered.the group has a policy of not punishing alleged child sex abuse unless a second person, alongside the accuser, has witnessed it - or an abuser confesses.it says its elders "comply with child-abuse reporting laws even if there is only one witness", though, and always tell police if a child is in danger.but one former elder said it had been failing to involve the authorities.john viney, who says he was abused between the ages of nine and 13, by "a distant family member who was an active jehovah's witness", added children were still being abused and the religious organisation was "inadvertently" protecting their abusers.

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  Great that the BBC are giving this some publicity. It was featured on the BBC news channel this morning. There was also a statement from the Charity Commission that made clear they are still actively investigating and will release their results in due course.
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  cofty

  Cynicism but no answer?

  How about pragmatism and gradual progress is as good as it gets? And the ONLY way to progress is via liberal democracy with all its faults?

  'Democracy is the worst form of government - apart from all the other ones' - or words to that effect by Winston Churchill.
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  cofty

  Terry - So how do we get to this state that you call 'how things ought to be'?

  And what would that state look like?