are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
Jesus believed he was living in the last days. He turned out to be a false prophet.
His modern disciples are just following his example. There has hardly been a generation in the last 2,000 years that Christians have not been predicting the imminent end.
are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
No
i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.
and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.
but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.
Anybody who imagines they could enjoy eternal bliss in heaven worshiping a god who is tormenting others in hell is a moral reprobate.
let's assume that the bible is god's word and the men who wrote it were borne along ( inspired ) by holy spirit.
if one sets out to deliberately malign the bible, would that be considered a sin against the holy spirit?.
If one sets out to deliberately malign the Bible, would that be considered a sin against the Holy Spirit?
Considered by who?
i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.
here are a few ideas.
-do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.
Cofty thinks it’s not JWs it is another group and I have asked him several times which other group has love among themselves all around the world?
I have not said any such thing.
I agree with everything Grretteacher said about how false the so-called love of JWs is.
They will literally treat you as if you are dead for a thought crime. Parents will cut off their own children and exclude their grandchildren from their lives. Parents will let their infant child die for want of life-saving medical treatment. They will allow pedophiles to carry on their evil crimes safe from the authorities because they value the reputation of their precious cult more than the safety of their children.
If you think love can be built on a foundation of enforced uniformity of thought you are still under its spell.
i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.
here are a few ideas.
-do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.
Cofty which organisation do you think is closer to the truth about the Bible than JWs?
What you are actually asking is - which organisation that agrees with the way the JWs interpret the bible is closer to the truth?
The bible does not present a consistent view of any major doctrine so it all depends on your preferences. JWs major on trivial things and miss the big picture.
Specifically they have a view of Jesus that is at odds with the early church. Secondly the JWs story of the meaning of Jesus' death would be alien to them.
i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.
here are a few ideas.
-do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.
It seems to many that JWs seem to be the closest to this
That is delusional.
i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.
here are a few ideas.
-do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.
Do away with the risible idea that the bible is literally the inspired word of God.
It has some interesting content, some wisdom, some beauty and a whole lot of repugnant narrative.
Stop insulting the intelligence of people by insisting that Adam and Eve were actual characters and that life hasn't existed on earth for millions of years.
You shouldn't have to pretend to be scientifically illiterate in order to belong to a community.
And also - stop calling it 'The Truth '. That moniker hasn't aged well.
na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .
nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.
god, who is over all, be praised forever.
How refreshing to see some thoughtful exchange of ideas on the forum.
in ancient israel many of the prophets were killed as a result of their religious assignments —from god.
even soldiers were sent out to fight against idolatrous “uncircumcised” and logically some died for example jonathan, the son of king saul.
these soldiers were said to be fighting the wars of jehovah and there was no miraculous salvation for everybody all of the time.
Fleshmarket Close in Edinburgh actually exists. That doesn't mean Rebus is a real Scottish policeman.
Same goes for Baker Street and Sherlock Holmes, or Sherwood Forrest and Robin Hood. The fact that Jehu may have really ruled Judah doesn't say anything about the veracity of Yahweh.
