Xena wanted to post some of her strong opinions about this, but she smoked a few bongs today with Tim and lost all ambition to reply to this thread.
(Xena, don't you cry now! I'm just teasing you!!!!!)
JerryTX
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What should he do? Can you help?
by Billygoat inthis post is triggered by freepeace's post on alcoholic relationships.
i'd like to share a story of a friend of mine with the hopes that you can provide some advice or insight.
he knows i'm a part of this board and understands how much support/encouragement/advice i get here.
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What should he do? Can you help?
by Billygoat inthis post is triggered by freepeace's post on alcoholic relationships.
i'd like to share a story of a friend of mine with the hopes that you can provide some advice or insight.
he knows i'm a part of this board and understands how much support/encouragement/advice i get here.
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JerryTX
One other thing.
Besides attending a meeting of people that are pro-pot, I would also attend a Cocaine Anonymous meeting, and talk with former users and see what they have to say about recreational use of pot.
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What should he do? Can you help?
by Billygoat inthis post is triggered by freepeace's post on alcoholic relationships.
i'd like to share a story of a friend of mine with the hopes that you can provide some advice or insight.
he knows i'm a part of this board and understands how much support/encouragement/advice i get here.
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JerryTX
Pot is different things to different people, as alcohol is different for different people. I don't smoke pot, nor have I ever, but I certainly have friends that do. Some of them are hard driving type A personalities and are very successful. Others are affected very negatively. They smoke too much, and feel compelled to do so. My friends who use pot sparringly say frequent use of pot destroyed their ambition and drive and caused them many problems.
I don't know how much pot Kammy is smoking but for a former drug abuser to use any drug recreationally, even alcohol, is walking close to the slippery slope of getting in trouble again. If you've talked to recovered alcoholics, they say they're only one drink away from being a slobbering drunk.
I think David is right to be seriously concerned. I think it's great that he stood by her when she had a relapse. That shows real character. But I feel Kammy is being reckless with the relationship by toying with any recreational drug, period. It's not that pot is so bad that nobody should smoke it. It's just that Kammy has a history of drug addiction that had the potential for completely destroying her life. Why is she willing to skate close to the edge?
I think the previous advice of going to counseling as a couple is good. The counselor can explain the risk inherent in former cocaine abusers using pot.
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Whitewater=Enron???
by Julie insince we have so many right-leaning politically speaking posters, i was wondering what comments they might be willing to offer up on this column i caught this morning.. http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp.
i am sure most of those who are quick to criticize anything that even remotely relates to clinton are all whitewater experts by now.
i would enjoy reading what thoughts you may have on the parallels and even how enron makes whitewater look like a trip to the penny candy store.. hoping some conservative can help me feel less screwed by my republican administration,.
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JerryTX
I'm not surprised by the Enron mess. I will be less surprised if no one goes to jail. You want to know how the world works, read Mario Puzo's "The Godfather." Then you'll understand. It's all about who has the money and the power and the right connections and influence. Those who have it will abuse the living hell out of it for their own beneficial gain no matter who gets steamrolled. Remember Charles Keating of Lincoln Savings and Loan fame? For all the people's lives he destroyed through outright fraud, bilking them of their life savings, he did only four and a half years in prison. To me the system actually encourages fraud. What's a few years in prison if you gain millions of dollars in turn? I would do it. Now, if I could only get rid of my conscience.
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What do you think?
by BobsGirl ini am needing a catchy name for a niche catering business.. i thought of "the home cookery" .... but i'm not sure if that is quite right.
any suggestions oh creative ones?.
bobsgirl.
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JerryTX
How about "A Moveable Feast" like the Hemingway book?
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
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How sure were you that it was the truth?
by sleepy inwhen you were a witness how sure were you that it was the truth?.
were you totally convinced or did you think it was just the best way to serve a god but not perfect.. it amazes me when i think of how vigourusly i defended the witness and my ideals when on the minisrty and in talking to friends.. what worries me is that if i was so covinced then about what i belive then should i be so convinced now.. back then i was at the pinnacle of understanding or at least i belived i was , do i feel the same now?.
well i try to not be so dogmatic about thing now.
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JerryTX
I grew up in the Borg, but many times was unhappy as a child and teenager at the suffocating restrictions on everyday life. Then at 25 I decided I was going to be a good JW or not at all. I became a True Blue Believer with spiritual flames coming out of my arse. I was dedicated, hardcore, and loved it. I had Watchtower stars in my eyes. Considered going to Bethel with my pioneer wife. I was a number 1 with a bullet. But that's what got me out was my fierce love of logic, which I ignorantly thought the JWs had. When I was shown the true history of the JWs and their doctrines, I was outta there.
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
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ex-JW Christians Suck!
by mikepence inthere, i said it.. how can you leave one brainwashing controlling world view and dive right into another?!.
duh!!!.
see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17131&site=3 for a great example of why they suck.. aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!.
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JerryTX
Gee, Mike,
I'm kinda dissapointed in your thread title. I know Ex-JWs with no belief in any religion at all that suck. But what makes people suck, Ex JW, Christian, Athiest, Agnostic, whatever, is the type of person they are. Doctrines and religion may come and go in a person's life, but people are who they are. No denomination or belief structure can cover that up.
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
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Give your definition of the word DUB
by Mr Ben inhow about.... dutifully under borg,.
distressed underpaid bullshitter.
disenfranchised, underprivileged, brainwashed.
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DUB
Dubious Understanding (of the) Bible
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
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What's your spiritual type?
by RR inhere's a test.
http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionid=&surveyid=27/.
questioning believer you have doubts about the particulars but not the big stuff.
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Confident Believer – You have little doubt you’ve found the right pathI was surprised by this high score. I certainly didn't expect it
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
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It's just dawned on me...
by Billygoat in...that jw's have a hard time forgiving others because they themselves are rarely forgiven for their own sins.
according to their beliefs jehovah keeps track of every detail of your life...good and bad.
that even if you are humble and repent of your sins, that there is still no true forgiveness until the new system.
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Andi, I hate it when JW parents act like that, mine included.
This week I took a deposition involving a plaintiff who was very messed up emotionally. During a recess, her attorney explained that this poor woman had been "through the wringer" as it were. Then she leaned over and confidentially whispered, "She was a Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't know if you've heard of them." Oh, yeah, sister. Do tell! Turns out when she left the Borg, her JW husband, with the help of his parents, stole their little four year old girl and disappeared. The girl was not recovered. The woman has never recovered from losing her daughter and from being in the JW cult experience. This woman has had to spend time in a mental health facility more than once for what she went through.
Andi, you on the other hand, are doing fine. You've got so much on the ball. You are nothing like your father. We can be grateful for that, that we're not still trapped in a mental religious prison. It's painful to be rejected by JW relatives, but I'd rather be a "rejectee" than be a JW trapped in that cult mindset. I'd make that choice without hesitation, regardless of the cost. I know you feel the same way.
I'm so glad you made it out and that I've gotten a chance to know you personally. You're a fine person and this world is a better place with you in it. I'll adopt you anytime, including the doggies!
Umm, well, they are house trained, right???I love ya, Andi!
peace,
Jer
"People handle their fear of change in different ways, but the fear is inescapable if we are in fact to change."
M. Scott Peck (The Road Less Traveled)