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  What to do with old Wat books, volumns...?

  by pontoon in

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  Sell them on EBAY.

  What years do you have for bound volumes?
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  Our Stories and Why They Matter

  by Farkel in

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  stories are perhaps the most important thing we can contribute to others in our short life on planet earth.. mind you, i am not saying that stories are the most important things in our lives, because they are not.

  the most important things in our lives are experiences, which are moment-by-moment things.

  the best we can do with our own experiences is to tell stories about them, which will never convey the actual living of them.

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  @Farkel, Speacking of stories, I'd like to read your part 2 before I die
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  Could "this generation" simply be the generation of fleshly humans

  by DJPoetech in

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  i was thinking about that and the crazy confusion of generational rangling being handed over by the gb.. maybe jesus simply refered to fleshly humans as a whole generation knowing he would be the first fruits of a "new generation" of spiritual creatures.. the gb have tried to rework the generational mess but it doesn't improve the outcome.. it would make more sense if we considered that the great crowd (new generation) were in heaven instead of on earth.. again just kicking things around!.

  what yall think?.

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  @Larsinger58: I've personally seen Paul and John, who never died

  How did you see them?
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  Does anyone dream about JWN?

  by brotherdan in

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  yeah...i know that this is a minimus type question....but.

  i spend way to much time on this site.

  i dream about it all the time.

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  I dreamed once that I got caught on JWN by the JWs.
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  I know I'm so silly for posting this, but why does the Super Mario Brothers music always go through my head when...

  by Joliette in

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  ...i think about how much 'time' the society has left before all of its dirty little secrets are gonna catch up with them .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdtyao3-mjq.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lptibenjvs8&feature=related.

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  One day, the charm of the NooLight Sunglasses wore off:
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  I HATE THE WATCHTOWER

  by ele_lux in

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  ahhhh!!!

  lately it enrages me to read all the bs on the watchower!!!!!!!

  when i started my fade i felt sad and quietly resentful, but now i'm just flat-out angry!!!!.

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  @brotherdan: Pirata...I have never seen that before. I wish I would have! It's taken me almost 2 years to get to the bottom. I linger around 4 and 5 now-a-days.

  It's the Kubler-Ross Model (5 stages of grief). Usually applied to losses in life, like realizing your whole belief system was a sham, or losing a love one in death.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
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  Hello. I have made myself a footnote.

  by NewChapter in

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  first time poster.

  i guess this makes me the scary a word.

  arent apostates jealous?

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  Welcome! I was shaking in my boots the first time I posted here. Seems silly looking back now, but most of us were there at one point.

  Look forward to hearing from you some more!
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  How often do disassociated people go back to the organization?

  by SEL in

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  a friend disassociated in order to get divorced, hoping not to get disfellowshipped.

  some time later, he has a serious non-jw girlfriend whom he'll probably end up marrying.

  the thing is, he didn't disassociate because he no longer believed the wt doctrines.

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  http://www.sptimes.com/2002/08/22/Floridian/Spiritual_shunning.shtml

  'Elders disfellowship 50,000 to 60,000 Witnesses around the world each year, Brown said. '

  'Each year, Brown said, 30,000 to 40,000 are reinstated, having "come back to their spiritual senses."'
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  I HATE THE WATCHTOWER

  by ele_lux in

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  ahhhh!!!

  lately it enrages me to read all the bs on the watchower!!!!!!!

  when i started my fade i felt sad and quietly resentful, but now i'm just flat-out angry!!!!.

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  Welcome to Level 2!

  • Denial (this isn't happening to me!)
  • Anger (why is this happening to me?)
  • Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
  • Depression (I don't care anymore)
  • Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)

  Not everyone goes through every stage of grief when they have lost something, but the feelings are normal and things will eventually settle and you will be able to move on.
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  How often do disassociated people go back to the organization?

  by SEL in

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  2. relationships

  a friend disassociated in order to get divorced, hoping not to get disfellowshipped.

  some time later, he has a serious non-jw girlfriend whom he'll probably end up marrying.

  the thing is, he didn't disassociate because he no longer believed the wt doctrines.

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  When I researched the amount disfellowshipped each year, I saw a statement from JR Brown that about 1/2 the number DF'd per year come back...

  Not sure about DA'd. I would think it has a lower return rate than DF'd.