Another thought....do you think Jehovah votes in Heaven?? Somehow I think it would take a hell of a long time to count them!
Posts by jdhf
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21Is the Governing Body really Jehovah's mouthpiece?
by dgp inon another thread, african gb member wondered whether the members of the governing body really believe what they preach.
and that led me to this thought:.
unless i misunderstood what i have read, the governing body claims that jehovah communicates with them and tells them what to do.
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Is the Governing Body really Jehovah's mouthpiece?
by dgp inon another thread, african gb member wondered whether the members of the governing body really believe what they preach.
and that led me to this thought:.
unless i misunderstood what i have read, the governing body claims that jehovah communicates with them and tells them what to do.
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jdhf
Inbetween..i have read in WT articles BOTH statements that they are and aren't Jeh's mouthpiece. I'll try to find them.
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Banned Book From The Bible
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fx2fjuys-e&feature=related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjyhr4icb3i&feature=related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjxfujvqubu&feature=related.
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jdhf
PSac....Apparently THE Enoch did NOT pen the book that bears his name. it has been dated to one-two hundred b.c. I have lots of regarding Jesus NOT being Michael... let me know if any are interested.
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Artists in Societys publications are working under inspiration?
by donny ini saw this in a post from a watchtower facebook page.
a person asks about the discrepancy between the society's illustrations and the actual biblical text.
look at the response for some good humor.. .
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jdhf
OMGoodness!! That is really creepy thinking! I thought the society said diversity was because Jehovah didn't create robots......well maybe he didn't but the WTS certainly did!! Was he really appointed an elder?? That is truly frightening. He has a look of a KKK member don't you think... I can see him and all the other faithful misogynists with their 'white robes' now...only they're not in Heaven!!
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The Truman Show
by slimboyfat ini know this has been discussed before, and it's the inspiration for mickey mouse's avatar.... i watched the truman show last night, and the parallels with life as a jw struck me.
truman thinks his world is real, but it's an illusion, part of an elaborate hoax.
the clues are all around him that things are not quite right: his distant wife; running into his dead father in the street; the strange messages he picks up on his car radio talking about him and watching his movements.
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jdhf
Slimboyfat...
Your remarks are an inspiration... when recently I really decided I had to leave and I would no longer look through rose coloured glasses I thought....'what about all of those poor people who are ignorant of the fact that this has all been and will continue to be a lie?'.... it really bothered me. I wanted to go to the hall and take the mike and tell them in no uncertain terms about all of the things I have learned about the precious society. I know that although I have the same 'zeal' to anti-witness, on an individual level, it is a decision that affects everyone differently. the consequences will be different for all as I have no family in the hall...but so many I know do have. the best that I can do, so not to be a false friend is to subtly and slowly put thoughts and ideas in their minds that hopefully will open their minds to independent thinking. I recently reached out to a really good friend who just moved out of Bethel in NY, and sowed seeds of what hopefully will be doubt. time will tell. Indoctrination is a terrible but formidable thing to combat. Even though I had doubts about certain things, it took a good friend to help me come to this realisation. Best of luck ...:)
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Commentary on the Letter of James
by lepermessiah inzoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".
it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.
how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.
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jdhf
I DID have the book...I went down to my library and can't find it! :( I have lots of other old books though. I'll see if I can get it somewhere. I read that Ray F. wrote it...wasn't that mentioned in COC??
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Commentary on the Letter of James
by lepermessiah inzoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".
it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.
how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.
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jdhf
Yes..it is the forerunner...I found it here in ireland in a 2nd hand shop! i got it for 5euros.... I think i have the first version...Ray Franz' version.. am looking forward to reading it...apparently there are a huge number of things that have changed from now.
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Artists in Societys publications are working under inspiration?
by donny ini saw this in a post from a watchtower facebook page.
a person asks about the discrepancy between the society's illustrations and the actual biblical text.
look at the response for some good humor.. .
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jdhf
haha! that's gas!! lion taming should be fun angus lol!!
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Ex-Witnesses in Ireland...
by jdhf inhey there....i've been noticing that there are quite a few support groups in other countries for those who leave the 'truth'.
i am appealing to those who are in the emerald isle to see if there is any chance we can get together and enjoy 'real' association, being of same minds etc.
anyway... i will put this out there and hopefully those in ireland will get in touch and we can support each other!
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jdhf
Hey there....I've been noticing that there are quite a few support groups in other countries for those who leave the 'truth'. I am appealing to those who are in The Emerald Isle to see if there is any chance we can get together and enjoy 'real' association, being of same minds etc. Anyway... i will put this out there and hopefully those in Ireland will get in touch and we can support each other! BTW...anyone know how to contact John May from Dublin who went over to meet Ray Franz a few years ago? It caused great consternation here and I would love to get in touch with him.. Thanks all! :)
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Christmas & JW objection
by Luo bou to injw's reject christmas because of its pagan origins.
it's not what it meant to people in the distant past that matters but what it means to us living today.
does anyone today visit a person's house see a christmas tree and think oooh he must be a pagan.
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jdhf
Juli, I agree with you totally....
I have been a witness for officially 15 years this year and have unofficially left as of last summer....official exit pending.. anyway, I forwent celebrating my 2 daughters' birthdays and xmas etc., as I had faith the the WTS really knew what they were telling us to do. Thing is, I DID really believe that they were Jehovah's spokesmen and trusted them. I had loved b'days and not from a material point of view, but a personal one. my daughters never knew what it was like to have one and this year they will have their first. I have done lots of research on the subject and looked at many points of wiew, both secular and religious. I so not consider myself a pagan, and neither does my family. Both of my girls nearly died at various times in their lives from serious illness, and although I love them with all my heart every day, I want to celebrate the very day that I was blessed by them entering my live. We all do so many things that would have originally have had roots in paganism, and if we were to scrutinize everything...we simply wouldn't do very much.