Ive just read this in the manual! Knowsnothing is right..they cannot have unnecessary association. they can be reprimanded if its an elder...or worse if a regular.
Posts by jdhf
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10Question about Disfellowshiped Relatives - Elders Manual
by Quarterback ini know it was discussed in a previous post, but can't remember where.
what was said about the treatment of a relative associating with a df'd relative?.
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"The Disfellowshipped Are Dead To Us"
by dontplaceliterature ini had a conversation with a friend previously mentioned on this forum.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/206541/1/dinner-with-one-of-my-best-and-most-liberal-jw-friends.
we were speaking about a mutual friend who was disfellowshipped, and i mentioned that i missed them and wondered if they were okay because it wasn't like disfellowshipped people were dead to us...and he immediately responded "oh yes they are!".
this is really out of his character to say.
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jdhf
White dove i totally agree....If Jesus were on earth today..I think he'd 'disfellowship' 90% of witnesses himself. He would hate the hipocrisy, hatred, sneering, tale telling, wrong doctrines, dictatorial attitude the WTBS bestow...I know enough about Jesus' personality from the bible to know he pretty much only spent time with wayward ones...ones who were not in any way exemplary, or full of their own importance. And I know he would heartily disapprove of the disfellowshipping arrangement. Also..I don't recall the apostles ever handing in time sheets! :P
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HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!
by jdhf inhey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
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jdhf
Thanks all for your kind words...I know she is gutted and so angry at this. I did suggest to her that she should avoid meeting them at all cost..but she said she wanted to get it over with ...and i don't think she was envisioning this outcome! Her mum wanted her to meet with them to to get it done with. Her mum is so upset about all this too and I know they are angry also at this decision. I know her grandparents not having contact with the little boy does prevent them from indoctrinating him...but he adores them and she is happy for them to spend time with him. I understand why the evil elders did this...they never visited me...I threatened them with legal action if anyone caused trouble for me. They let me fade as a result. Why do they love to attack elder's kids? I wouldn't mind but one of the elders who visited her ...his own kids get drunk, and one of his kids was sending naked photos of himself to girls. Nice hypocrisy, eh? I hate double standards. I wonder if anything on this is mentioned in the elder's manual? I'd love a copy of it to be honest. Anyway...thanks all! :)
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VERY depressed
by youngbro ini have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
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jdhf
You poor thing....please realise that you will not always feel like that...depression can be so frightening and one of the things we forget in those dark times is that it does end...it does lift. You need to seek medical advice or a second opinion. I don't know where you are based...but lots of us around the world are rooting for you!
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VERY depressed
by youngbro ini have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
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jdhf
wow...i feel not only for youngbro but for so many who have shared parts of their stories here. I'm suffering from severe panic disorder and it's proving dibilitating. I was on anti-d's for 13 years..and recently gave up..say last feb...then had a whole lot of trauma in my life and hey presto needed to go back on them..but they are proving ineffective. I feel like crap all the time and am panicky too most of the day. And because i suffer from AV node reentry tachycardia and ectopics I really don't need my heart rate elevated. I'm out two years...and still feel like I'm lost...and son't know what to believe. Lost. So i do understand the feelings you have. They are a bitch..and you have received lots of good advice from many wise people. I tried many times to get my science degree underway to be told I shouldn't be studying. So I stopped. Last year...I took up genetics, forensic science, molecular pharmacology, geology and astronomy. It's true as so many have said education can help. It will give you the tools you need in life to have a productive future. I really hope you get some inner peace. I'm still searching for some...but I have to believe I'll get there. Please do proper research on the organisation...Crisis of Conscience is a great place to start. It will really open your eyes as to the true nature of the organisation and will undoubtedly change your attitude to them. They are not god's organisation, and I think it will be easier for you if you realise this. I hope the best for you though. :)
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HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!
by jdhf inhey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
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jdhf
Yes billy I was thinking that. At least you guys could encourage her! Sinis....they let her live in the house although they rent another. I'll look up the link for her. Her parents are staying put in the religion but obviously are not happy that they've been forbidden to see the child, as they adore him! The WTS is such an evil cult. I just wish it would become known worldwide how divisive they are. Thanks guys for your help! x
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HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!
by jdhf inhey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
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jdhf
Thanks Sinis...I'll pass it on...looloo..sorry for your trouble. I'm in Ireland by the way. :)
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HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!
by jdhf inhey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
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jdhf
Well the other day she told her parents she had enough ..that her heart just wasn't in it anymore. They accepted it...but her little boy let slip that his mum is dating someone..not a witness..so her dad called in the heavies. I don't know if he expected this. He is not happy with the decision. Can they forbid them from seeing the grandchild though? They don't agree that it's right. I think that's why they were horrible to her. Over the dating. im sure thats why she's 'freed'..poor thing is so upset.
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..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..
by OUTLAW inaccording to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .
the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .
which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...
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jdhf
To be honest I never felt good enough as a witness.. I would chastise myself constantly over not being perfect.. who can really be like that.. live like that?? Its not normal life at all. I do miss some of my friends though that I loved lots and It's probably better they live away from me. And having lived in a 'divided' home, I was rarely invited to anything. I have some amazing friends now...some who have left the borg...and admittedly some who don't know I've left. Life is hard enough without us all feeling like we're not good enough...or not living up to a ridiculous standard. And never mind the hypocrisy..that's another thread. :)
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HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!
by jdhf inhey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
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jdhf
Hey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy. He is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...Can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child?? They babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...Her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural. Please help...using WT literature if u can...she's in bits!