Posts by TTWSYF

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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

by Mad Sweeney in

the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

TTWSYF

Every single Denomination claiming Christianity makes all of the same goof ball and sometimes dangerous mistakes the Society makes.

Designs - Can you find an amount of scriptures that other Christian organizations do not promote?

What are ignored scriptures from Pentecostal, Protestant, Evengelical, Catholic and Orthodox churches?

I'm not looking to change this thread, but I think the point is that the Watchtower ignores a massive amount of scriptural evidence that contidicts many of their doctrines. As is evident from the examples displayed on these 3 [so far] pages.

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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

by Mad Sweeney in

the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

TTWSYF

how about 'people who twist scripture, twist everything'

sorry, don't remember exactly where that one is.

In one of Paul's letters he say to 'not hold judgement against a man if he holds one day above another' The watchtower can't like that one too I would suppose.

Great posts to you all.

dc

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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

by Mad Sweeney in

the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

TTWSYF

I'd imagine that any scriptures that discribe Christ as King of kings or Lord of lords is easily ignored by the Watchtower as is the scripture that says you are to honor the Son same as the Father,[sorry, forget which one].

I remember that John 8:58 is the scripture in which Jesus declares his Divinity 'Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.'

Sure, my brother [and any other good witness], would answer the 'I have been' is in perfect tense. As a matter of fact, he constantly tells me that Jesus never said he was God, that he knew who he was.

I answer that he was, he is and he will be the same..always. That's why the Jews wanted to kill him. 'I have been' may have sounded strange, but not worthy of stoning to death, right?

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Ghost in my house?

by cognac in

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weirdest thing ever just happened.. my daughters toy started playing music by itself.

there was nothing around it that could have caused it to do that.

and it just happened 4 times in a row and then i called out to my husband and it just stopped.

TTWSYF

call a Catholic priest to........

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Validity of JW Baptism

by maputo95 in

please could someone tell me what is said in a jw baptism?

i was told that jw baptisms are invalid because they do not baptise in the "name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit.

because of this invalid baptism a catholic cannot marry a jw with church approval, i think.

TTWSYF

zzaphod wrote "I was never baptised as an infant, so I view my JW baptism as valid."

I do not understand this statement. Are you suggesting that infant baptisms are invalid? In the book of Acts there are many examples of folks being baptised. 'he and his whole household' If you had an infant in your household and you were getting baptised, ofcourse, you'd baptise your infant too, right?. Any family member in my household [and yours] would be included, wouldn't they?

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

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criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

yesiddid

If you can excuse the religion which instigated and carried on the inquisition for 350 years you can excuse anything.

If I may correct you. The inquisition was not a teaching of the Church. Some in the Church started it [in Spain I believe] and it was continued and it is certainly a terrible historical black eye, to say the least.

What can be said? Well, the bible says that the Church contains good and bad people and that Jesus will seperate the wheat from the chaffe. If the Church contains good and bad, then you cannot judge the Church from the bad only, can you? You must look at it's teachings and see for yourself if you are in the faith [again, as scripture states]. Everyone knows that power corrupts, and the more power, the more corruption. The inquisition happened during the centuries known as the Dark ages. There was alot of bad seemingly overcoming the good...but the Church is still there. Through that and other scandels the Church is still there just as Jesus promised. Even if there are terrible people connected to it, you have to know that there are more good people in it than bad, but the bad folks get all the press. So it is not the religion which conducted the inquisition, but corrupt people in positions of power. I hope you can see the difference.

respectfully,

dc

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

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friends

criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

You just can't get rid of the infallable Pope!

Of course there are no infallable Popes. The promise that Jesus made to his Church was that it's teachings would be protected through all generations and ages and in the event of an anti-pope [and I'm not suggesting that this Pope is an anti-pope] that the teachings would still be uncorrupt,the teachings would remain infallable even if the individual is not. We all have read how Peter denied Jesus 3x, Paul had to correct him on atleast one occassion and he probably wasn't the smartest apostle, but his teachings were flawless. Read some church father's writtings and see that they all took their cues from Peter in Rome. That's why the Catholic church has been around for some 2000 years. That it can and will withstand the attacks of Satan and all of hell itself...that is was Holy Scripture says.

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

jw
friends

criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

As a Catholic, I am [and have been] disappointed in the handleing of these pediphiles. People-no matter what their faith- are entitled to dignity and justice. Repentance is mandatory for forgiveness from God, but our social justice system should be involved also. This is a problem that is not exclusive to the Catholic church. I have no idea why good men of God would cover such horrible crimes. It only compounds the problem. The why is obvious to me. Satan attacks and we all must do what is right to defend ourselves and our children from evil. If Satan could enter Judas while he was with Jesus, then how many others in our faith [no matter what faith] could he enter? My prayers are with all victims of physical, mental and emotional abuse.

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Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

by UnDisfellowshipped in

are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

TTWSYF

Other religions may use the name Jehovah, but no other faiths throw it in your face the way JWs do. Then to research it and find the truth, and then have to still say how Jehovah is the right way is a tough sell. don't ya think?

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

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my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

argh...just having issues confirming those websites from my posts...very sorry folks.

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