Posts by TTWSYF

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what is the ontlogical trinity

by piledriver in

the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .

TTWSYF

Hi Cofty, I don't know if I can explain any more clearly as I am not a theologian or apologist, but you know what a compound word is? Firetruck, firehouse, etc? Put two words together to make a different word.

In Hebrew, like many other languages, there are not the exact words that can be translated with a similar english word. We [who speak english] have one word for one....it is one.

Hebrew has two words for one. One word is the singular one just like we speak in english,

The other is a compound one which indicates the combining of elements to make a one. A synergistic one. A combination one.

I think you understand....

just saying...that The Truth Will Set You Free

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what is the ontlogical trinity

by piledriver in

the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .

TTWSYF

Or, how about this? God is so awesome and by the power of his word do things exist and are sustained, He is so awesome that when he speaks, his words are alive, His words have HIS spirit, his words are alive and deserve the same honor as HE HIMSELF deserves.......it is a mystery

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what is the ontlogical trinity

by piledriver in

the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .

TTWSYF

The question posed to me from the my JW brother went like this 'Hear O Israel, the Lord your God is one God' How can there be a trinity with such overwhelming contradiction? I had to admit that I had no answer for that question. It was only years later did I research after having a religious experience related to a relative who visited Medjugorje.

Answer- In the Hebrew of the Old Testament there are 2 words for ONE. מישהו {אחד{ These words [to the best of my recollection] are pronounced with english letters as YAchid and EchAd. One means a singular one and the other means a plural one. IE-Man and woman came together to become ONE[plural] flesh, Day and night became ONE [plural] day and the Lord God is ONE[plural] God. So without indicating a trinity, the Jewish God of the old testament is unequivocally described as a compound God.

The Father raised Jesus from the dead [Gal 1;1 & Thess 1;10]

Jesus raised himself from the dead [John 10;17&18]

The Holy Ghost raised Jesus from the dead {Rom 8;11}

The Father dwells in believers [1 COR 3;16&17]

The Holy Ghost dwells in believers [1 Cor 2;12 and John 14;16&17]

Jesus dwells in believers [John 14;18]

Searching hearts and minds? Father [JERE 17;10] Jesus [REV 2;23] Holy Ghost [2 Cor 2;10]

my two cents...

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Is there actually a valid Translation of the Bible ?

by Phizzy in

i saw a vid on-line awhile ago, i cannot remember the title so can't find it, but the guy was some sort of expert in the languages of the bible, and he made a very good case that there has never been a proper translation of the bible.. what he was saying was that all translators fall into the same trap of an overly slavish use of the etymology of words rather than how language was actually used at the time of writing.. he said that what was needed were scholars who were familiar with secular contemporaneous writings, and knew how language was used at the time.. this looks like a very interesting argument.. any thoughts ?

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TTWSYF

vidqun- Dead languages are the easiest to translate. The meanings of words and phrases do not change anymore [the language is dead]. Example, no one speaks latin anymore so the translations are very accurate and can be re-translated to our language as our language evolves.. if that make sense.

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Did Jesus really die on a cross?

by macys in

jw
friends

being raised a catholic we had lots of crosses around the house.

when my family converted to this cult they were all removed and destroyed in case they had demons in them lol but at this juncture in my life i do not even know if jesus as the way he is portrayed in the bible was real.

yes a man named jesus did live and die 2000 years ago and probably on a cross but he was definitely not the son of god.

TTWSYF

Punko-good point, but there is a diff between giving your life for a cause and being tortured to death imho

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Did Jesus really die on a cross?

by macys in

jw
friends

being raised a catholic we had lots of crosses around the house.

when my family converted to this cult they were all removed and destroyed in case they had demons in them lol but at this juncture in my life i do not even know if jesus as the way he is portrayed in the bible was real.

yes a man named jesus did live and die 2000 years ago and probably on a cross but he was definitely not the son of god.

TTWSYF

Punk- Fair enough, Jesus;s legend was promoted orally for many years before being put to the parchment. Many comparisons to other demigods were a common argument against the legitimacy of his existence. That said, once the blade touches YOUR skin, you would NOT hold onto any legend. At least I don;t think that I would.

just saying

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Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

by Zoos in

remember this?.

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well how about this?.

TTWSYF

Hi Sofia Lose- Don't forget that the JW baptism is a baptism of joining the Watchtower, It is not a valid baptism. Valid baptism is something that you do not need to study for. You simply are baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost [or Holy Spirit]

In the book of acts, people and their whole house holds and families were baptized immediately and all at once without any of the JW drama. Baptisms were to enter God's family and you wanted to do that asap.

Jw baptisms are to promote loyalty to the Tower...all worship the Tower

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Did Jesus really die on a cross?

by macys in

jw
friends

being raised a catholic we had lots of crosses around the house.

when my family converted to this cult they were all removed and destroyed in case they had demons in them lol but at this juncture in my life i do not even know if jesus as the way he is portrayed in the bible was real.

yes a man named jesus did live and die 2000 years ago and probably on a cross but he was definitely not the son of god.

TTWSYF

Punkofnice- Did Jesus actually exist?

There were a boat load of people who were tortured to death for a while after Jesus died. If it were not true, there would be no Christianity 2000 years later would there?

Just asking

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Is there actually a valid Translation of the Bible ?

by Phizzy in

i saw a vid on-line awhile ago, i cannot remember the title so can't find it, but the guy was some sort of expert in the languages of the bible, and he made a very good case that there has never been a proper translation of the bible.. what he was saying was that all translators fall into the same trap of an overly slavish use of the etymology of words rather than how language was actually used at the time of writing.. he said that what was needed were scholars who were familiar with secular contemporaneous writings, and knew how language was used at the time.. this looks like a very interesting argument.. any thoughts ?

?.

TTWSYF

This is exactly why you need biblical scholars to translate the scriptures. It is not just about the language, it's about the time, the place and the people as words mean different things to different people in different cultures even if they speak the same language throughout specific time periods.

ie 'I want to smoke a fag' or 'I'm so pissed' will mean totally different things to an American compared to a Brit.

just saying....that you need more than a greek-english or hebrew-english or aramiac-english dictionary to translate the scriptures

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Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

by Zoos in

remember this?.

.

well how about this?.

TTWSYF

How can you NOT compare the Catholic Church to the Watchtower? Look at their fruits.

The Catholic Church gave the world universities, hospitals, old age homes, orphanages, food banks, etc and is the largest charity in the world.

The Watchtower gives spiritual food at the proper time and is restoring God's real name and now is the largest publisher in the world.

They're like twinsif