i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Looks like you have your answer formerbrother. Nothing is going to change your mind. Not reason, common sense or traceable history. Just a lot of pages of people who know nothing.
2. There is a creator, but JW's are not the closest to the truth, but after 21 pages of hundreds of posts, we still cant find another alternative.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
I personally hate the terms
"Lying for the Truth" aka "Theocratic Warfare" Why? Because Satan is the father of lies and our warfare should be against evil and not people.
Another term is a scriptural verse from Jesus "You know a tree from it's fruits" Why? Not because of Jesus's verse, but because the WTS has NO fruits. They have lots of works [restoring God's name and going door to door and magazine carts, etc], but what are the fruits? Non existent. Works without fruits do not have the blessings of God...sorry
i always accepted that the nwt said that these verses in john were not in the most reliable manuscripts.
i thought it was strange that while the "old" nwt at least included the verses, the "revised" nwt completely omits them.
now i'm trying to do research on my own, but my head is still spinning from all of the information i've taken in the past week.
Try reading the bible without the aid of other's influence or opinions. You need not know the deeper things until you know the basics.
Also..read slowly so that you lessen the chances of missing important points that may have been overlooked in the past.
Biblehub or other online bibles sources will give scholarly explanations of books and verses as opposed to Jim's bible which may not be very reliable.
Sources that have professors with PHDs and are affiliated with universities are much more reliable then sources without......very obviously
sorry, I didn't even give thoughts on John 7;53-8;11
The Truth Will Set You Free
this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.
i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.
i was hoping for some comments from this board.
The WTS indicates that we are on the Titanic and have been since 1874[?]
Maybe we're on the QE2
this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.
i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.
i was hoping for some comments from this board.
I think if there were only 3 months or less before an asteroid destroyed the earth, then, yes. Don't paint the rooms....
But if there is more time, then you gotta do all that Jesus asked [if that's your Christian position].
I guess my train of thought revolves around the WTS's 140 year + [and counting] voyage after the planet hit that big iceberg....that no one else noticed.
Also -Ignoranceisbliss- I just got your post. Very funny!...Just a delayed reaction from me
this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.
i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.
i was hoping for some comments from this board.
this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.
i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.
i was hoping for some comments from this board.
it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
