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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  One good fruit, OK how about the FACT that JWs are the only option fulfilling what Jesus said in Matt 24:14 "This good news of the Kingdom will be preached to all the nations"
  Please tell me another Church who is involved in this global preaching work? Im surprised it hasnt yet been brought up in this thread, go on which option have we all missed which is also involved in a vast global preaching campaign? Oh thats right there isnt any apart from JWs.
  If the Divine name was originally from the Catholics then why did they stop using it?

  Former brother, if I may correct your confusion. The fact that JWs are preaching to all nations is not a fruit, It is a work. A fruit would be something good that came from that work. NO FRUITS just works that produce NO FRUITS.

  Secondly, how is it that JWs take credit for bringing the good news? It's a catholic book. Are you suggesting that JWs have more missionary work than the Catholic church? No reasoning and sense in your argument.

  Why did the catholic church stop using Jehovah? Because it's a made up name. If it was the true name of God, then everyone would be using the Lords name in vain just by saying Jehovahs witnesses because it is rarely used in worship in JWs and others. STILL NO FRUITS, just works that produce NO FRUITS....sorry
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  How credible are NWT's critiques?: Allin and John 8:58. (2)

  by Wonderment in

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  how credible are nwt's critiques?

  : allin and john 8:58.a few weeks ago we had a discussion surrounding john 8.58. the posters in this forum offered various views in regards to jesus' divine role in scripture.

  occasionally, some scholars publish articles where they voice their opinion against the nwt theological renderings.

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  I agree with clambake

  Clambake5 days ago

  Read the entire the book and chapter . If you can't figure out the author intent you are absolutely retarded.

  Christian theology isn't based on fighting over single verses or arguing over indefinite articles etc etc.
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  How credible are NWT's critiques?: Allin and John 8:58. (2)

  by Wonderment in

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  how credible are nwt's critiques?

  : allin and john 8:58.a few weeks ago we had a discussion surrounding john 8.58. the posters in this forum offered various views in regards to jesus' divine role in scripture.

  occasionally, some scholars publish articles where they voice their opinion against the nwt theological renderings.

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  Wonderment-ultimately, the charges of Jesus's claims of divinity were brought before the Jewish leaders. That's why he was crucified.

  You posted Secondly, did you read the context presented in the article?" See below:

  Does it take Jesus claiming to be God to prompt the Jews to kill him? No. It was even forbidden for others to say that Jesus was the Messiah. (John 9:22) And why was Stephen the martyr stoned to death? Stephen was stoned, not because he claimed to be God, nor because he claimed Jesus was God, but because he was proclaiming Jesus to be the heavenly-exalted Son of Man, the Messiah. (Acts 7.55-58)

  What nonsense. Of course they wanted to kill him for blasphemy. Why else would they want to kill Jesus? For saying 'I have been'? How ridiculous is that argument? Scripture says explicitly that it was because Jesus made himself equal to God. Read the text instead of posting nonsense void of reason. Lying for the truth is still lying and your thoughtful answers are decayed with common sense and reason...sorry
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  If JWs are a religion why haven't they got a word?

  by slimboyfat in

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  what is the word for jw religion?

  is there any other religion that doesn't have a word?

  catholics => catholicism.

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  Russelites?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Better to stick to the bible, ALL of it. JWs are the only ones who do that. Using the divine name is also key.
  

  
  
  It is my experiences that the JWs do very little of the bible. They do not do anything scriptural. They have a new testament of Jesus. A false new testament. How do we know? Look at their fruits. Really, look at the fruits. No one can name one JW fruit. Everything in JW doctrine is a copy of catholic teachings. Going door to door with a catholic book [the bible] telling everyone that Jehovah is God's true name [coined by a catholic monk] telling people that they are the biblical authority in prophesy and meaning [with a history of less than 200 years] What are the fruits? If it is from God, there would be fruits.
  What's the JW alternative? Try a church has real fruits that have helped billions and billions and billions. Jws have works that have no fruits. NAME A FRUIT, JUST ONE GOOD FRUIT FROM JWs please.
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  List of reasons why the witnesses are wrong.

  by atomant in

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  l thought it might be a good idea to have a quick reference post to remind people of the faults within the jw org.what do others think.

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  I'm with you cha ching.

  Lying...not just lying to those they feel are unworthy for the truth, but they lie to everyone. They must lie because their history is so very limited, but to have a policy [either officially known as 'theocratic warfare', or unofficially as] 'lying for the Truth' is nothing short of disgraceful.

  How? How does a person stay with such an organization that promotes such policy and then has the stones to call itself 'the truth'?
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  How credible are NWT's critiques?: Allin and John 8:58. (2)

  by Wonderment in

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  how credible are nwt's critiques?

  : allin and john 8:58.a few weeks ago we had a discussion surrounding john 8.58. the posters in this forum offered various views in regards to jesus' divine role in scripture.

  occasionally, some scholars publish articles where they voice their opinion against the nwt theological renderings.

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  Hello McFLy?

  All of this study and work to prove or disprove grammatical wording and translating of a word or a phrase to disprove that Christ claimed to be God.

  These arguments are null and voided out by the facts that those around Jesus wanted to kill him for blasphemy.

  That valid point seems to be lost on those who promote 'I have been' instead of 'I am' .

  Jesus was in danger of being killed on more than one occasion for the blasphemy of claiming equality with God. Note that he never once tried to correct the crowd to say he was misunderstood.

  Of course, common sense will not prevail with the JW apologist
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  Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

  by Esse quam videri in

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  many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

  the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

  examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

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  Fair question. The WTS does send people door to door with a catholic book [the bible].

  And they are promoting the name which was coined by a catholic monk an eon ago {Jehovah}

  And say that they are the true heirs of these things.

  I guess that's what must be done when your history spans 1/10 of the catholic church.

  just saying,,,cause it's true
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Former brother, What was the Christian alternative for the first centuries before the bible was compiled?

  What was the alternative for Christianity for the 1850 plus years before the cult of WTS?

  The bigger question is WHAT FRUITS HAS THE WTS GIVEN TO THE WORLD OR EVEN CHRISTIANITY?

  Just asking
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  If all the world were JWs....

  by Tornintwo in

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  in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

  but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

  first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

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  Everyone would have polio.

  No one would have a hospital, a school, or any charity towards other folks who needed help.

  Just stating the facts